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rangerp
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 Arab Spring
Hmmmm, does not look like the whole Arab Spring is working out real well for us. They attacked the embassy in Egypt and burned our flag, and last night they attacked the embassy in Libya and murdered our ambassador (all in the name of their religion of peace). I thought attacking embassies was an act of war? I guess the anointed one should go back to Cairo and give another speech, apologize some more, and appease them all.
"So WHY did Obama pick Al Qaeda to support in Libya while “fighting” them elsewhere? Why was Gahdafi so bad that Al Qaeda is preferable to him? This didn’t just happen because we decided to fund a revolution.
This is because Gahdafi was building an African monetary union that was gold backed and meant to control the distribution of African natural resources on the open market by not selling in dollars. Hence the US can’t print money without massive inflation. We picked Al Qaeda to run a country RATHER than to be honest with our own citizens and to be fiscally responsible. Always follow the money. We didn’t create an overthrow in Libya because we dig al qaeda…we did it to keep the great robbery going"
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txmudcutter
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Good post rangerp as usual
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barnes_53
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Having been part of MSGBn (Marine Security Guard Battalion) for the US Embassy in Tokyo from 95-97 this is personal! Why in the fuck is our American Emabassy/Consulate ATFP (anti-terrorism/force protection) not in the hands of the Marines? Especially in this hot bed after a revolution? DOD/Pentagon cutbacks perhaps? I am so fucking sick of American blood being spilled in the name of "religion" while this administration continues to flounder on foreign policy and leads from the back.
Now you want to send Marines in after the blood has been spilled? Fuck if the election was not months away I doubt he would have even done that. The presidents administration issues some bullshit statement about condemning this or that. You want to issue a statement? Blast their fucking asses and give them a direct route to their fucking "allah" or their pork eating prophet they choose to senselessly kill in the name of. Send a message to the entire world: We will help you, but if you fuck with us we will kill you all.
Oh I'm pissed.
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Joey p
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 Re: Arab Spring
Semper Fi, and Rangers lead the way.
More horse shit from Dumbo. So the white house initial reaction is to condemn some bullshit internet video? Are you kidding me? Instead of shooting on sight these murdering godless heathens? We're fucked if we don't get this bullshit Kenyan Muslim out of the white house.
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rangerp
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/graphic ... t-warning/a little info on it. If you want to have some fun, go read about this incident on the Huffington Post (huffpo), and read the blogs how people are praising Obama for his brave leadership on all of this.
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:18 am |
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barnes_53
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@ranger -
You're making my blood pressure go through the roof bro.
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Mike W.
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Nuke tha bastards till they glow!!!
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barnes_53
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:27 pm |
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rangerp
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 Re: Arab Spring
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens's body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.
It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.
Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.
Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.
Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.
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rangerp
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 Re: Arab Spring
"We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others" I wonder if forcing Catholic medical facilities to pass out birth control counts here? I wonder if speaking of folks in rural Pensylvania with "clinging to their guns and Bibles" fits this category? How about here, where he made fun of the Bible ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnY8WY24bAI wonder if allowing degenerat sodomites to serve in our miltary denigrates Christain views (Lev 18:22)? Let us not forget that he told us that we are not a Christian nation, but he stood before French TV and claimed that we are a muslim nation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmuE-kNgeSA
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barnes_53
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Here is how I see it:
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:46 pm |
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barnes_53
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You know, its crazy how history repeats itself. Ronald Reagan's Address to the Nation on the United States air strike against Libya - April 14, 1986:
My fellow Americans:
At 7 o'clock this evening eastern time air and naval forces of the United States launched a series of strikes against the headquarters, terrorist facilities, and military assets that support Mu`ammar Qadhafi's subversive activities. The attacks were concentrated and carefully targeted to minimize casualties among the Libyan people with whom we have no quarrel. From initial reports, our forces have succeeded in their mission.
Several weeks ago in New Orleans, I warned Colonel Qadhafi we would hold his regime accountable for any new terrorist attacks launched against American citizens. More recently I made it clear we would respond as soon as we determined conclusively who was responsible for such attacks. On April 5th in West Berlin a terrorist bomb exploded in a nightclub frequented by American servicemen. Sergeant Kenneth Ford and a young Turkish woman were killed and 230 others were wounded, among them some 50 American military personnel. This monstrous brutality is but the latest act in Colonel Qadhafi's reign of terror. The evidence is now conclusive that the terrorist bombing of La Belle discotheque was planned and executed under the direct orders of the Libyan regime. On March 25th, more than a week before the attack, orders were sent from Tripoli to the Libyan People's Bureau in East Berlin to conduct a terrorist attack against Americans to cause maximum and indiscriminate casualties. Libya's agents then planted the bomb. On April 4th the People's Bureau alerted Tripoli that the attack would be carried out the following morning. The next day they reported back to Tripoli on the great success of their mission.
Our evidence is direct; it is precise; it is irrefutable. We have solid evidence about other attacks Qadhafi has planned against the United States installations and diplomats and even American tourists. Thanks to close cooperation with our friends, some of these have been prevented. With the help of French authorities, we recently aborted one such attack: a planned massacre, using grenades and small arms, of civilians waiting in line for visas at an American Embassy.
Colonel Qadhafi is not only an enemy of the United States. His record of subversion and aggression against the neighboring States in Africa is well documented and well known. He has ordered the murder of fellow Libyans in countless countries. He has sanctioned acts of terror in Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, as well as the Western Hemisphere. Today we have done what we had to do. If necessary, we shall do it again. It gives me no pleasure to say that, and I wish it were otherwise. Before Qadhafi seized power in 1969, the people of Libya had been friends of the United States. And I'm sure that today most Libyans are ashamed and disgusted that this man has made their country a synonym for barbarism around the world. The Libyan people are a decent people caught in the grip of a tyrant.
To our friends and allies in Europe who cooperated in today's mission, I would only say you have the permanent gratitude of the American people. Europeans who remember history understand better than most that there is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil. It must be the core of Western policy that there be no sanctuary for terror. And to sustain such a policy, free men and free nations must unite and work together. Sometimes it is said that by imposing sanctions against Colonel Qadhafi or by striking at his terrorist installations we only magnify the man's importance, that the proper way to deal with him is to ignore him. I do not agree.
Long before I came into this office, Colonel Qadhafi had engaged in acts of international terror, acts that put him outside the company of civilized men. For years, however, he suffered no economic or political or military sanction; and the atrocities mounted in number, as did the innocent dead and wounded. And for us to ignore by inaction the slaughter of American civilians and American soldiers, whether in nightclubs or airline terminals, is simply not in the American tradition. When our citizens are abused or attacked anywhere in the world on the direct orders of a hostile regime, we will respond so long as I'm in this Oval Office. Self-defense is not only our right, it is our duty. It is the purpose behind the mission undertaken tonight, a mission fully consistent with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.
We believe that this preemptive action against his terrorist installations will not only diminish Colonel Qadhafi's capacity to export terror, it will provide him with incentives and reasons to alter his criminal behavior. I have no illusion that tonight's action will ring down the curtain on Qadhafi's reign of terror. But this mission, violent though it was, can bring closer a safer and more secure world for decent men and women. We will persevere. This afternoon we consulted with the leaders of Congress regarding what we were about to do and why. Tonight I salute the skill and professionalism of the men and women of our Armed Forces who carried out this mission. It's an honor to be your Commander in Chief.
We Americans are slow to anger. We always seek peaceful avenues before resorting to the use of force -- and we did. We tried quiet diplomacy, public condemnation, economic sanctions, and demonstrations of military force. None succeeded. Despite our repeated warnings, Qadhafi continued his reckless policy of intimidation, his relentless pursuit of terror. He counted on America to be passive. He counted wrong. I warned that there should be no place on Earth where terrorists can rest and train and practice their deadly skills. I meant it. I said that we would act with others, if possible, and alone if necessary to ensure that terrorists have no sanctuary anywhere. Tonight, we have.
Thank you, and God bless you.
It's ironic you didn't hear shit out of these morons after that bombing until that POS took office in 2008. God Bless Ronald Reagan and his willingness to protect America and her citizens by sending a very clear and concise message to terrorists all over the World. Unlike our own domestic terrorist currently residing in the oval office, he didn't rush to condemn, he didn't rush to empathize with the Islams feelings over some interpretation of a got damn movie!!
WE ARE FUCKED!!!
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BayouStateHunter
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Amen. We need another Regan, asap!
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SwampDonkey1
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kibb
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markoutdoorz
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that was some interesting thoughts on that video
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rangerp
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Looks like the entire Arab world is getting hot. I do not think they have a love for our first amendment rights, and would like to see them taken away.
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barnes_53
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From Fox News:
A senior security official says the attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff.
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Libya: Ally? I think not. These fucks don't even have a government now. How in the fuck can you trust a bunch of poverty stricken, gun wielding factions? You can't. They sell to their service to the highest bidder. Someone was on the inside that compromised the OPSEC of this safehouse. A fucking mole. A fucking rat.
Egypt: See above. We also covertly funded these POS (along with Libya) to overthrow their govt and this is what you reap. The blood is now on the hands of the Obama administration. It is a got damn disgrace!!
Pakistan: Not even fucking close to being an ally but yet we send them billions of aid each year. For what? So they can harbor the biggest pork loving haji of them all and talk out of both sides of their ass?
Who is next? Syria? The American public already knows that the Obama administration is meddling in their shit too. Its only a matter of time before we shed more American blood there.
Then Iran?
Do not forget that we still have service members dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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barnes_53
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Case in point...read an excerpt from an interview from this spineless piece of shit. I hope whoever voted for his "change" in 2008 is enjoying this. Next time do America a favor and stay home and don't go vote.
Obama, in an interview with Spanish-language network Telemundo, pushed back on the idea of suspending aid, saying the U.S. "doesn't have an option of withdrawing from the world."
On Egypt, he said pointedly: "I don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we do not consider them an enemy."
King countered: "If he's not an ally, why do we continue to give him billions of dollars in aid?"
Egypt was slated to receive $1.6 billion this year in U.S. aid. Protesters earlier in the week stormed the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and tore down the U.S. flag.
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cmiller73
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MALLARDSX2
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Thats some heavy shit
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eljefe
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you know whats scary, the marines attached to the cairo embassy cannot carry live ammunition.....wtf?!?!?!? its kinda like our rules of engagement in the afgan and iraq fronts.....we should have been plinking them sand monkeys off the wall at the egypt embassy and letting them lay and rot along the wall.
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barnes_53
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I surely hope this is not true. If it is I sure hope the SNCOIC of that MSGDet called that bitch out, state department employee or not, for putting all the American lives at greater risk.
Execute the order....ask for forgiveness later.
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txmudcutter
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Seems we've become more worried about hurting peoples feeling than we do about protecting our own people wtf
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POKER1
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The bigger question is when will we learn our lesson and just pull out of these shit holes instead of leaving our people in harms way to begin with. What do we gain by having embassy's or personnel in places like this? Nothing that I can see. There is no deplomacy to be had and you can not negotiate with religous zealots and terrorist. IMO when you undertake this suicide mission your on your own. Expect nothing less than death in the end.
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rangerp
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OIL
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Robn1020
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I think we should mount machine gun nests on all embassies in Islamic countires. Then the next time this happens, we mow em all off the wall. When they complain, tell em we're just fighting violence in terms they understand, with violence. I am so sick of watching the U.S. pander to these crazy people.
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barnes_53
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cmiller73
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Tell the leftist that.
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rangerp
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Host nations are supposed to have the responsibility of protecting an embassy.
The Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 1961 is an international treaty that defines a framework for diplomatic relations between independent countries.
"There's a dual responsibility. Under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, the host country is responsible for security of embassies. However, experience has taught the Americans that they can't rely on the host country to do that. They've experienced big losses in places like Kuwait, and Beirut a couple of times, even in Islamabad, Pakistan, when it was burnt to the ground. So they've learned they need to establish their own security bureaucracy to take care of that, and the Diplomatic Security Service (or law enforcement arm of the State Department) came into being in the mid-1980s."
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tchauvin
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barnes_53
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dguidry
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Barnes: Instead of calling your president a spineless piece of crap, whe don't you offer a solution to what happened in Lybia and to the middle east arena in general. List specific actions and policies you would use if you were president.
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tchauvin
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barnes_53
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NA
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Muslims don't eat pork. They hate it. That's why they call us American swine. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or what with the statement about the "pork loving POS". Just wanted to clear that up.
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barnes_53
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well aware that they do not eat pork
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rangerp
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sometimes the enemy you know is better than the one you don't know.
Supporting the Arab Spring and Muslim Brother hood (backed by Al quaida) was not so smart.
After Reagan dropped bombs in Quadafi's back yard and blew up his kid, old Quadafi played ball our way. I do not think the US gained by seeing him removed from power.
Egypt did well for decades, and tension between them and Israel had mostly waned. Now the Muslim Brotherhood is in charge, they have declared Israel to be their enemy.
In Genesis chapter 12, God clearly states that he blesses those that bless Israel, and curses those that curse Israel. Not all of you believe the Bible, but I believe unequivocally that world history shows that statement to be ture. I also believe Obama is not a friend of Israel, and is governing in a way that puts Israel in a real bind, which in turn puts our nation in a bad light with God.
Things in the middle east under Obama policies are not turning out for the better. In my opinion, they are starting to view us as weak, like they did when Carter was in office.
For starters, we need to get back in lock step with Israel, and their safety. Second, we need to drill in Anwar, and off shore here, produce our own energy and get less dependent on the middle east, thus giving them less power.
If Obama is elected again, I fear things in the middle east may get a whole lot worse.
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barnes_53
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This is worse than Jimmy Carter
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