No - "high ground" to stand upon !

No chance of passing meaningful legislation if all the Democrats care about is punishing
a President that 70 million Americans voted for serving a second term.

Unless Biden can end these Impeachment and attacks on a prior President - he won't be
able to do anything meaningful except limit the Executive Office for decades to come !

Though disturbing as hell, people need to see what actually happened in the Capitol:

https://www.kmov.com/news/disturbing-vi ... 89a65.html

Like I said several posts back wrong is wrong there is no grey area. It is tragic that lives were lost.
The guilty need to be held accountable. I am in no way condoning the violence.

That video post was not directed at you--you've been consistent in saying both forms of violence are wrong (and I agree).

I'm just pissed at those mother-fuckers that stormed our nation's capitol, ripped down the US flag and threw it on the ground to put up a goddamn Trump flag, beat a cop to death (as well as four others that died), caused untold thousands in damage, stole computers with classified information, planted pipe bombs, brought zip-tie flex cuffs and homemade napalm and disrupted the peaceful transition of power that makes us unique in the world--all while Congress was in session. They care more about Trump than they do about this country. This is in the United States Capitol for fucks sake. I just want everyone to see what we're talking about and be on the same page.

I'm just glad they're being caught. They thought it was all a joke, laughing and high-fiving as they walked out. I doubt they'll be so cheerful when they're being traded for cigarettes in federal prison.

FBI says state capitols will be the sites of next protests... They need to be peaceful. Every time one person gets stupid it erodes our rights as a free people. Our second amendment is constantly under attack and stupid lawless actions are not helping the matter.

Exactly!!! These types of actions, even "open carry" that borders on brandishing--and I'm all for open carry (I personally carry that way from time to time), but NOT brandishing, just giving cause and support to confiscate my guns!

I agree with that completely. Violence and insurrection are wrong. What happened at the capitol was wrong, the other violent protests that have been going on for 9 months all around the country are wrong. Anyone responsible for violence during protests should be punished with jail time be it people who participated at the capitol in violence or people who participated in the violence around the country in other protests.

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Wilbur T wrote:
FBI says state capitols will be the sites of next protests... They need to be peaceful. Every time one person gets stupid it erodes our rights as a free people.
Our second amendment is constantly under attack and stupid lawless actions are not helping the matter.


Exactly!!! These types of actions, even "open carry" that borders on brandishing--and I'm all for open carry (I personally carry that way from time to time),
but NOT brandishing, just giving cause and support to confiscate my guns!quote]

In Florida certain outdoor activities are privileged with open carry. Fishing is the one I will often open carry.

Same up here in MN. Even 18 year olds can carry handguns while doing certain outdoor activities (16 with supervision). Our carry permit is just that--you can carry concealed or open. But the instructors will say, be judicious about open carry. For example, don't carry an AR-15 in downtown St. Paul. We also have brandishing laws which can be applied, so carrying openly a handgun in a holster is fine, while carrying a AR in the low ready position with hand on the grip could be construed as threatening and therefore brandishing.

It’s a false flag operation...just like the DC protests. It’s an attempt to lure Conservatives to these areas, then, escalate it to the point where Conservatives catch all the blame and feel the heat.

Then, the left have fuel to plead their case to do away with.....pick your poison. In this case, the “FBI” is saying “armed” protesters. So, you do the math.

Additionally...why do you think suddenly the big tech companies are censoring so many conservative voices?
1 - they only want you to see and hear their agenda.
2 - they do not want any opposing views being seen nor heard
3 - word on the street is some “stuff” is being declassified...so, it can’t be seen and heard.

....all under the guise of violating TOS which “promotes violence.”

So....interestingly enough...all those Dems that were tweeting burn down DC, burn down Louisville, no justice no peace, storm DC if RGB is replaced....why are their accounts still active?


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https://youtu.be/4bIeKj7fZ8U

Everybody knows it. Nobody (read MSM and Big Tech) are saying it.


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Two (retarded) Virginia cops arrested--how fuckin dumb do you have to be to take a pic and publically post it of you crime.... as a COP!??:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-ri ... -arrested/

Two police officers in Rocky Mount, Virginia are facing federal charges in the January 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol. Sergeant Thomas Robertson and Officer Jacob Fracker have been charged with unlawful entry into a restricted area and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.


According to a criminal complaint, Robertson and Fracker were photographed inside the Capitol building in front of a statute, with one seen pointing and the other making an obscene gesture. At the time of the riot, the two were off-duty from their jobs as police officers with the Rocky Mount Police Department, the complaint says.

The complaint makes note of Robertson's claims to the media that he did not engage in violence and was escorted by Capitol police, but it points to another social media post by Robertson that read: "CNN and the Left are just mad because we actually attacked the government who is the problem and not some random small business ... The right IN ONE DAY took the f***** U.S. Capitol. Keep poking us."

Mngunner i noticed you havent posted a pic of the blm activist that entered the capitol and was arrested......hmmmm i wonder why? You liberals amaze me.

I'm not a liberal! You think I'm a liberal because I'm posting pictures of fuckers that attacked my country, killed a cop and tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power??? Not all conservatives are Qmoron sheeple.

Post up this pic and arrest report of whoever you're talking about--I want all these pieces of shit exposed and tried for treason.

If you are angry about cops getting killed then you should really be upset about the last 9 months of protests prior to the capitol riots. We lost 12 officers during those riots. Most of which were ambushed. Funny no one talks about those unsung hero’s.

You dont mind looking and posting pics of everyone thats a republican but dont wanna look if its a liberal i see. Youve apparently been searching enough. I find it funny your pissed people stormed the capitol but aint worried about the cops and people that lost their lives and businesses in the riots, guess that aint your country only the crooked ass politicians. If you wasnt mad then i dont wanna hear it now. We watched liberals call for that bs and it finally hit at their doorstep. Kamala said the riota wont stop and keep going. Maxwell said if you see em in restaurants confront em, dude the list goes on and on on that . Too bad some of those politicians didnt get taken out like the innocent people that lost their lives in the riots. Also havent seen no liberals condemning big tech for banning trumps accounts but literal terrorist can tweet all day. If they can ban the president just imagine what they can do to everyone else that doesnt agree. Show me one thing where trump encouraged people to go in, all i can find is him telling people to be peaceful. Your right i hope they find everyone of em involved and charged with treason but that would mean 75% or more of those politicians would hang

75% of the politicians... HUM... LET THEM BASTARDS SWING! Term limits hooray! On a serious note I would like to see the ones who are crooked
removed from office. They have had too much time to be affected by special interest groups and are too caught up in pork projects.

As far as I'm concerned, these treasonous fucks aren't Republican. They don't belong to the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt or Reagan. They are shit bag terrorists.

It's a sad day when people can't acknowledge that and try to make excuses for them.

And to your first point, I saw it firsthand the riots in Minneapolis and it pissed me off too. It was scary as hell. I know people that had to defend their businesses. My high school friend and college roommate is a deputy sheriff for Hennepin County and spent days in riot gear and tear gas.

Like I said for the third time--they are both crimes and need to be treated as such. and again for the third time, just because someone robs a bank in Florida doesn't mean I can rob a bank in Iowa.

If that's going to be their defense in court, we won't see them for a very long time

Your right cant rob a bank anywhere but when one side is telling you its ok to rob a bank and the banks are gonna keep being robbed as long as trumps president is ok and they wont even try to find you then when the opposite party robs a bank they have your information and your in jail before you get home and videosnfrom every angle, they know what you ate 3 weeks ago and every move youve made...thats the fucking difference. The only people making excuses for all of it is the demoncrats! They called for it all so no im not mad they stormed the capitol, they got exactly what they wanted....at their own doorstep this time, they didnt get to sit back in the safety and watch it on tv!

I guess Republican Majority leader Sen. Mitch McConnell is a liberal too (here's the video ):

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconn ... ment-trial

McConnell says Trump 'provoked' the Capitol riot as Senate weighs another impeachment trial

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., placed blame on President Trump for the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6 that left five people dead, including a Capitol police officer.

McConnell addressed the insurrection during a floor speech Tuesday afternoon and said Trump "provoked" the mob that tried to use "fear and violence" to stop the Joint Session of Congress from certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win.

"The mob was fed lies," McConnell said. "They were provoked by the president and other powerful people."

No. Just a corrupt and self serving politician like the vast majority of the rest of them.


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hes a corrupt ass politician just like the rest of em. im sure you have proof that he provoked it? because i havent seen them present any that makes me think that. they ran with russian collusion for 4 years with absolutely no evidence and i guess you believe that too. democrats will believe anything cnn tells em too and they show no evidence just making it up as they go.

Trump was frickin impeached the first time for this. The trial in the Senate was split on party lines and had nothing to do with evidence, though Trump was guilty as the sin.

And that has what to do with my statement saying McConnell and the overwhelming majority of the rest of congress is corrupt? I made zero comment about the ramifications or implications of his corruption with respect to this impeachment or any other, but you cant get out of your own way and off your own self proclaimed high horse. Just relax man. Relax.

I’m sure you are going to somehow find a way to argue that he is somehow more corrupt than whomever you chose, and then draw a strange straw man or argue that someone else didn’t conjugate a verb properly.

Ask the leader of the Republican Senate, Mitch McConnelll. That's his quote. The better question is "im sure you have proof McConnell is corrupt?"

You'll also have to ask Trump's Sec of Def, 4-star Marine General "Mad Dog" Mattis and Trump's Chief of Staff and 4-star Marine General John Kelley that have said the same thing. I'm sure those two lifelong Marines (one of whom's son died for our country in Afghanistan) are "corrupt" and "self-serving" too....

Funny how anyone that isn't willing to suck Trump's dick is suddenly "corrupt." Also, funny how EVERYONE but Trump is "corrupt". The whole world is "corrupt" and out to get that poor rich kid. Even United States banks stopped lending him money decades ago (which is now why he owes foreign banks like Deutsche Bank $100s of millions) and the NFL would not sell him a team in the '80s. The guy that built and ran casinos (into bankruptcy) with mob money, founded fraudulent Trump University, has numerous inner circle associates/advisors indicted and convicted of crimes, had business dealings with Russia, conned millions into donating over $250M to his post-election fund to "fight election fraud" in a manner that he get's to keep the money is as pure as a Catholic nun.

Sad how "Law and Order" and "Personal Responsibility" has been replaced with "Treason/Riots" and "Blame."

Yeah i got proof....hes spreading his opinion on what happened without any evidence! He hasnt provided any evidence nor the democrats but they voted to impeach on opinions. Like i said you got proof? Dont give a fuck what mad dogs opinion is or whoever elses OPINION is.....show me the fuggin proof or your just as bad as cnn for spreading fake shit. You democrats keep saying trump has done this and that but yet to provide any proof....until you do your a lying ass corrupt democrat....dont like my opinion eat a dick.

Who said Trump isn’t corrupt? He may well be, just like many many others, but many peoples argument for him is that at least he has exposed corruption, even if he may as well be corrupt. It’s a lesser of two evils argument, but it is the way very many see the current political environment and shouldn’t simply be dismissed.

You can not like that logic, but I am concerned that everyone always believes everyone but their own representative is corrupt, which is how so many of these national politicians remain in office for so many years, and most have amassed significant wealth as a result.

The assumption should be that politicians are self serving and that we remain very skeptical of all of them. We are many many years past George Washington, the founding fathers, and the classical statesmen.

There have been very few national politicians that haven’t catered to special interests, political power grabs, or other avenues not directly aligned to their constituents. Some line their pockets, other sell out their constituents for funding so they remain in office. Neither is what their constituents want or expect of a truly selfless statesman that is there to serve.

We should always remain incredibly skeptical of politicians and expect that they prove to us why they deserve our vote. If that’s controversial, then I’ll go grab my tin foil hat.


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Just listen to these comments...

These are the people who claim Trump incited violence...

These are the people who say Republicans are the problem...


https://mikeonline.com/montage-of-democ ... -rhetoric/

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