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We don't, and that's what has giga so pissed. Not sure why, but whatever.

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Never been "pissed" just amazed that so many would put friends, family, and others at risk !

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You dont listen. No one is at risk because of a boat not having flotation. They're at risk because of the conditions, boat operation, and driver capability, attention, and decisions. Period.

Putting passengers in a life jacket helps change the narrative if something happens due to one of those factors. Put flotation in the boat and change nothing. Nothing. Seriously, giga, what does it help? Something to climb up on? In 30 degree weather when the water is 40 degrees? Which is better? Be specific. If its 80 outside and the water is 65? Oh, wait, I don't use that boat in those conditions, and I'm not the only one. Try something else. You haven't proven anything yet, regardless of your attempts. My passengers aren't in more danger without flotation in my duck hunting boat than they are with flotation.

Funny thing is, theres a guy that posted here a while back about had his boat not had flotation, the tug boat wouldn't have seen him on it and plucked him out of the water. You never used that in defense of your argument. Would've at least helped you a little. When looking up stats related to that type of situation, though, the numbers don't support you except in the extreme outliers, which doesnt validate your efforts. Most of those cases fall into the category above about decisions, conditions, etc.

You do you. Don't worry about your perceived failure of the rest of us not wanting to replace foam in our boats because the manufacturer is too cheap or lazy to seal it off properly, or warranty that coast guard rating that isnt valid after 3 years of normal use in the rain.

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You dont listen. No one is at risk because of a boat not having flotation. They're at risk because of the conditions, boat operation, and driver capability, attention, and decisions.
Period.


A Mud Boat - is a boat !
Hunting in a Mud Boat is a Recreational Use !
A Mud Boat used for Recreational Use is required to have floatation !

Period !


Loopholes are closing - Enforcement is coming !


The law is clear - floatation is REQUIRED.... Section 183 is clear on the issue....

Every builder in violation - is at risk of liability and prosecution for injury incurred....

Every operator in violation - is at risk of liabilityand prosecution for injury incurred....



https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2017- ... num183.302

§ 183.3 Definitions.
Boat means any vessel -
(1) Manufactured or used primarily for noncommercial use;
(2) Leased, rented, or chartered to another for the latter's noncommercial use; or
(3) Operated as an uninspected passenger vessel subject to the requirements of 46 CFR chapter I, subchapter C.
Vessel includes every description of watercraft, other than a seaplane on the water, used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on the water.

§ 183.201 Applicability.
(a) This subpart applies to monohull outboard boats that are:
(1) Less than 20 feet in length; and
(2) Rated for outboard engines of more than 2 horsepower.
(b) This subpart does not apply to sailboats, canoes, kayaks, inflatable boats, submersibles, surface effect vessels, amphibious vessels, and raceboats.

§ 183.202 Flotation and certification requirements.
Each boat to which this subpart applies must be manufactured, constructed, or assembled to pass the stability and flotation tests prescribed in §§ 183.225(a), 183.230(a), and 183.235(a).

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Not related to my post, nor to yours concerning your amazement.

Having a mudboat with flotation will eventually only be avoidable if we build our own boats. But the law isnt as clear, which I've already stated, as you claim. That word "primarily" screws that up. Who defines that, and how?
Using a boat 4 months out of the year for hunting, the the other 8 months of the year for delivering mail in the swamp, or commercial fishing, etc, it is perfectly legal, as it is not used "primarily" for recreational purposes. Or 6 months and 1 day is enough. Or 10 years out of a 15 year old boat's life? Whats the time frame to be considered primarily? Or even using it 12 months out of the year for those options to make money, but using it on the weekends for fishing or taking the family out to enjoy the water. Oops, still legal without flotation. See what I mean? Still good and clear? Manufacturers wont have to eat that one, because theres still wiggle room because of my examples above. Also some I haven't mentioned or thought of, but I figure the above is enough to make life fun for lawyers, and painful for the courts.

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That word "primarily" screws that up. Who defines that, and how?



Laws regarding - Commercial Fishing !

So you would need to provide or require each passenger to have a Commercial License
and be an employee of yours or another legit business...

If you exploit a LOOPHOLE and someone gets injured you could face legal liability
or prosecution for putting them at risk... Could be your best friend or his widow
on the other side of that lawsuit against you for neglegence...

Why take the chance - buy a legit USCG certified hull from a legit builder !

The law is clear !

Enforcement is coming !

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Giga - The hell you know about enforcement? Have you ever enforced anything in your life or looked at the Louisiana revised statutes book and see how many different ways things can be interpreted or enforced based on their wording? Unless you are a captain or above in the wildlife and fisheries then your constant comment of "enforcement is coming" is completely meaningless and quite annoying. Everyone wants to enforce but no one is in an enforcement capacity. Do yourself a personal favor and go ride along with an officer in your local jurisdiction for a day and you will see that no one has time to worry about stupid flotation or cars parked 13 inches from the curb instead of 12. I can promise you, law enforcement does not care about flotation and would not have time to enforce it even if they were worried about it. Please stop acting like you know the laws governing the state of Louisiana just because you look up and read an LRS code once a year.

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and see how many different ways things can be interpreted or enforced based on their wording?


There you go - a Federal Game Warden sees it differently than a State Warden....

The federal Warden knows the Federal Laws requiring floatation - but the State Warden
knows the State Laws on Commercial fishing....

"You can't have your cake and eat it too"

If your going to claim Commercial Use - you need everyone to have and hold a State
Commercial License when onboard and need to conform to those Laws to justify a claim
of Commercial Use.... I am not addressing legit commercial use by informed adults
out to earn a living...

You might get away with "riding the fence" on the Recreational / Commercial issue
but one thing is sure.... Your breaking one law or another.... When someone is injured
the lawyers will have a field day sorting it out in court....


This is just a discussion on "Floatation on a Mud Boat" - why not just acknowledge the
fact that using a non floatation hull for recreational hunting is a violation of the law ?

Because it is !

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But it isnt against the law to use boats without flotation for recreational purposes. It only applies to boats purchased after the change that meet certain criteria, and if the grandfathered exemption isnt in place, and they are used primarily for recreational purposes.

You didnt address my questions specifically, giga. Make up your mind if it's a law thing to you, or safety issue. If it's the latter, you haven't validated that argument. If it's the former, then you really dont understand the words written in the law.

The law isnt clear because it doesnt say "if you have passengers that aren't licensed and using it for commercial purposes then you are in violation of the law." That's not in there anywhere. It says if the boat is primarily used for recreational purposes, then it is required. Primarily that day, in a month, or a year, or lifetime of the boat? Not defined. They left that vague for a reason.



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Anyone know when the magic date was that changed the law? When did all non-commercial boats begin to need flotation?

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But it isnt against the law to use boats without flotation for recreational purposes. They left that vague for a reason.



Yes - Yes it is against the law to use a non floatation commercial use only hull for recreation....

It is only legal for legit adult commercial use and only when captain and passengers
are properly licensed and working for a legit employer....

If you are "off work" - it is recreational use !

Just that simple !


If you ever spend much time at a ramp waiting for late buddies - you see that about 30% of
folks there cant even back a trailer into the ramp safely.... They struggle just to get away
from the dock without incident and often without lights, without requiring passengers to put
on a PDF and worse often without having kids and women in PDFs - yet away they roar at full
throttle off into the NO WAKE ZONE.... Often you even hear a call out to pass back a beer !!!

The laws are written to save lives....

Do many "fracture" a rule here and there --- sure --- problems start when we teach these newbies
that it is OK to use the LOOPHOLES and get a commercial use hull because it has more storage,
goes 2mph faster, and costs less too....

IMO ---- It only makes good common sense to just buy a legit USCG certified hull....

What we really need is a good factual thread about which major brand builds the safest hull,
uses the best foam, encases their foam to eliminate water saturation, has a new and better
idea on how to comply with sealed air bladders or chambers, or has a boat that you cut cut
holes in and cut in half yet still floats and gets you back to the trailer safely...

Where are those threads ???

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Didn't gd build a shit ton of "commercial" hulls for pd knowing that pd was selling these hulls in the same, mostly "recreational", market as gd? So does Coco really give a flying fuck about safety or laws? Or maybe he cares more about money?

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I keep flex seal and flex tape in my boat. Don't need anything else. Can make it back to the trailer real easy with that.

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Not gonna read the whole thread. Have wasted hours of my life I will never have back reading previous flotation argument threads on MMT.

I don't care if you have flotation in your boat or not. It's your business.

I can tell you that we run in Idaho in air temps all the way down to single digits with water temps in the 30s and I am glad I have it. We run big water. Yes, we wear life jackets, but I shudder to think what a 1/2 mile swim in these temps would do. I am pretty sure you would die. If I am hit by the rogue wave and flotation plus my 2000 GPH bilge pump will buy me the opportunity to be in the boat in my waders instead of out of the boat and swimming for shore I will tolerate the loss of space in my boat and speed that the bulk and weight of full level flotation costs. Your experience may vary.

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Evil is the one who restarts this thread says Chauvin :twisted:

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I wish my Boat had good clean Flotation but I know it will soon be Water logged and just cause weight in my boat. I doubt it would float at all in a year or less.


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I wish my Boat had good clean Flotation but I know it will soon be Water logged and just cause weight in my boat. I doubt it would float at all in a year or less.



Unless chemicals are present - foam is still 90% good even after 2 to 3 years under
either salt or freshwater continuous submersion....

if your hull is 5 to 10 years old - then you should consider investigation and at least
replace the under floor foam which is cheap and easy to replace....

But floation can save your gear and your life !

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Here we go again :x

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You know I just thought of something. I do have Flotation. I got 6 Lifejackets under the Front Hatch.


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I do too then lol :lol:

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I do too then lol :lol:



I guess that puts an end to a mutually agreed safety issue.


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Sounds like a good conclusion to me lol :D

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You know I just thought of something. I do have Flotation. I got 6 Lifejackets under the Front Hatch.



So 6 lifejackets inside a hatch....

Just like the tour boat sinking where 17 died a 100 yards from shore lifejackets in overhead bin....

No lifejackets on passengers and no hull floatation - recipe for drowning....

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This thread popping up as the most viewed in the Cyber mud fest category goes to shows this forum has gone to poo poo. Haha
Floatation did get me out of a bind one time. But it was a very very poor decision on my part. I believe it kept the rear end of my boat floating enough to keep the motor out of the water and idle it back to the bank. My transom was nearly under water.
All goes back to decision making. Most learn the hard way, and thankfully most live to tell about it.


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This thread popping up as the most viewed in the Cyber mud fest category goes to shows this forum has gone to poo poo. Haha
Floatation did get me out of a bind one time. But it was a very very poor decision on my part. I believe it kept the rear end of my boat floating enough to keep the motor out of the water and idle it back to the bank. My transom was nearly under water.
All goes back to decision making. Most learn the hard way, and thankfully most live to tell about it.


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So what was bad decision


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kirk wrote:
This thread popping up as the most viewed in the Cyber mud fest category goes to shows this forum has gone to poo poo. Haha
Floatation did get me out of a bind one time. But it was a very very poor decision on my part. I believe it kept the rear end of my boat floating enough to keep the motor out of the water and idle it back to the bank. My transom was nearly under water.
All goes back to decision making. Most learn the hard way, and thankfully most live to tell about it.


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So what was bad decision
welllll
It was Public Land, got to the levee where we get out and use pirogues from There. (No motor unit). Dropped some equipment off and a buddy off
I got back to boat and the transom was basically flush With water but half the boat was pulled up on the levee (I assumed the boat traffic swamped my boat) and there was enough traffic to where every time I made progress bailing water another wave would come and I was back to square one.
At the time I was by myself, I decided I would try and push it off, displace the water over full length of boat and get on plane and pull plug and drain water. That didn’t work, motor couldn’t even get out of idle and would die. It started to overheat, I was able to make it back to levee, which really wasn’t far but I felt like a sinking ship (literally) in the middle of a canal.
All in all, I felt like the floatation bought me just enough time to keep me semi afloat and back to the levee.

Funny story is, there was another boat where I parked on levee And his wasn’t swamped. About 6 months later I had a friend of a friend ask me if someone pulled my plug at a certain area. Initially I said no, but then got to thinking and remembered that one morning when I was The first boat to arrive to that parking spot and it must’ve upset someone . then they decided to brag about pulling someone’s plug and it got back to me.

Thankfully some guys ended up stopping and helped me bail the boat, then went and picked up my other 2 shooters and shot 4 limits that morning. It was a hectic morning for about 20 minutes.
Sorry for long story haha.


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i run a comm skiff with a comm vessel liscense and a comm fishin liscense, and i would sink that mutherfuker with you in it just to drown your sorry azz. lol


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i run a comm skiff with a comm vessel liscense and a comm fishin liscense, and i would sink that mutherfuker with you in it just to drown your sorry azz. lol
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my bad, yea I was talking to Gia. probly should of just let the thread die again. lol


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Clearly those who are educated and have evolved beyond
webbed toes know the true value of floatation....

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that's just it.... nobody's 'evolved' around where I live. and that's how we like it. I don't need big bruther pushing flotation and helmuts and seatbelts on me. what this is all about is money anyway. the mfers who build boats are mad at the other mfers who build boats and are using stupid feelgood legislation to try and run the little man out of bidness. instead of having a craftsman who been making boats for 40 years build u a boat for a few thousand, they want to outlaw this and make u buy a 10-15k hull from a 'government approved' builder. I bet Gia's husband has a boat shop and wants a new swimming pool so he's on his soapbox trying to screw me and other working class folks who just want the boat we need, not some stupid, bloated pos that will be harder to push and waste my time/money.

just because u think u are 'educated' and above common sense don't mean you know shit. carpetbaggers are nothing new. keep that sheet in texas. lol


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No body gives a flip if you spend your money inside your parish
on scrap aluminum....


Just dont call it a boat and try to sell it in Texas - or any other State....

Unless you add floatation or sealed chambers and send it off to the USCG for
certification which should only add a few hundred dollars to the overall build cost...

Pontoon boats get USCG with no foam at all just multiple sealed chambers....

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IMO - anyone who takes his kids or grand kids out in a non floatation hull
has shit for brains ! ! !

Quite a few here with shit for brains ! ! !



I agree, and in my opinion taken for whatever its worth, when duck hunting if you take on water in my boat, but have on waders you wont get wet or cold cause my boat wont sink full of water. We may have to pull the plug and run down the river to drain it but everyone is safe and warm. A life jacket doesn't prevent hypothermia. But i have never hunted a boat without floatation in it so i cant speak to that. I just use what i got, and enjoy my time shooting ducks and spending quality time with good friends in a duck blind or on the water.

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Just ordered one of those automatic inflatable Life Jackets so I am covered


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Here this dip shit goes again with his piss poor interpretation of what is legal and what ain't.

Just let this democrat think he knows best and let this thread die!

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I myself would love to have Flotation under my Floor that would float my boat. Problem is we all know that crap gets water logged and heavy real quick and it never dries out. In fact this same Flotation could cause you to be dead in the water from hitting something you might float over after it does get water logged. Not to metion all the water it may trap by not allowing you boat to drain as it should. This is why I did not want it. This Horse died some time ago.


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so, if I go to home depot and buy a couple of cans of foam, then shuv theem up my azz, will I float? seems like a great solution to this problem. Gia, u go first and let us know if the coast guard approves. lol


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Post Re: Floatation on a Mud Boat
Gigafowl wrote:
Clearly those who are educated and have evolved beyond
webbed toes know the true value of floatation....:


Educated ...... Check
Evolved beyond web toes..... Check
Know the true value of floatation in a mudboat hull..... NONE
Know the true value of PERSONAL floatation device ON MY PERSON....Check twice.

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Captain Indicted.... Faces 170 years in prison...

Kenneth Scott McKee was indicted Thursday in connection with the tragic duck boat sinking that killed 17 people, including nine members of one family.

Prosecutors said McKee did not properly assess the weather that fateful day in July -- before or after the boat went into the water. McKee also allegedly failed to tell passengers to put on their flotation devices or prepare them to abandon ship after two separate alarms sounded.

The captain was charged with 17 counts of misconduct and negligence or inattention to duty by a ship’s officer resulting in death, according to the indictment. He faces up to 10 years in prison on each count.

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