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well after looking into these mudmotors i have decided to build my own. save some money and have a fun project for the spring. i am looking to build a 25 hp short shaft surface drive. i am looking for some help. i have some ideas in my head and have been watching youtube videos getting more. the only thing i am stuck on is the gears and drive. belt driven, chain driven. and where i can get a prop.
also if anyone has plans for a surface drive and they wouldnt mind sharing that would be great. any info would help out a tonne.


Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:11 pm
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You can actually buy a MB frame in pieces from MB, unless you were planning to actually mill or cut your own designed parts.

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i see bog hog has a pre fabbed design. everything comes in the package minus the motor. where do i find these other frames maybe the price is cheaper.


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MB website, or dealer.

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Or just do like R.B. and buy a GDSD frame
then part out stuff till you break even and
buy a motor and have a few fab shop daydreams
let J. fab a bit on yer hull and - viola - it's alive !

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i was thinking of making it as cheap as i can. my father inlaw works as a wleder and get all all the materials including the motor for free. so all i would have to buy would be a prop and a shaft. maybe the gears. but a couple hundred bucks is better than 4000 for a store bought motor and i can mod it the way i want for it to fit my john boat. the only other thing i am stuck on is engine size. my boat is rated for a max hp of 25 outboard. which is only 150 pounds i know the store bought surface drive motors are over 200 i am affraid i might bend the transom. if i build my own i can make it lighter and make a 25 hp work.

i have looked on the md sight and cant find anything for build it yourself kits. the only one i found was the bog hog kit. and it is pricey. i dont want to spend more than a grand for a kit. if anyone out there has a frame they want to part with or parts i would be interested in that.


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http://www.mudbuddy.com/Duck%20Boat%20A ... ge%202.htm

Sounds like it's more than you're wantin to spend though.

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that is pretty steap if i am going to do that i might as well spend another 2 grand and get a used surface drive. thanks for the help though. i have a few things to think about of course.


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Gigafowl wrote:
Or just do like R.B. and buy a GDSD frame
then part out stuff till you break even and
buy a motor and have a few fab shop daydreams
let J. fab a bit on yer hull and - viola - it's alive !

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got started on the surface drive last week. total invested for everything is.
total invested for everthing is 1300. 20 hp horizontal engine. a 11 x 10 prop all the metal, chain and sprockets.

the rig is looking good so far one more day and it should be finished then i have to do some testing. we decided to go with a chain drive setup. and 3 to 1 ratio. i will post pics when it is all painted and finished. also maybe a video of the first run.


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You are going to struggle with 3:1 ratio and a 11X10 prop. Most designs are running a 1.2:1 or 1.5:1 ratio spinning that prop and using a 23 + hp engine. Also, chains do not absorb shock loads like a timing belt does. Just thoughts.

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Call mudbuddy, tell em to fax u over a copy of the gator tail plans


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ya the chain drive didnt work out the way i was hoping so now i am going with the gears and belt. and i am going to call them right now and see if i can get the plans thanks


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ya the chain drive didnt work out the way i was hoping so now i am going with the gears and belt. and i am going to call them right now and see if i can get the plans thanks


Dude, I really hope you're only bein a smartass back at him. If not, please tell us how the conversation went. :lol:

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team camo. i wasnt aware that he was being smart but i just called mud buddy and the customer service just laughed. i did manage to get some help on teeth size and belt to use. which was a great help. i told the guy what i was doing and he said great idea. gave me some tips on certain things i have been struggling with. and he gave me the tooth and gear and belt sizes needed.

i am seroius about getting this engine running like a top. and i will be happy to post pictures and help anyone out that is building there own. and please keep your smart comments to yourself. i am looking for help and not samrt comments


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Sorry, but that is funny. :lol:


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Well, at least they laughed about it, I figured they woulda hung up on ya. :lol:


That was dirty, Ronnie, even for you. :lol:

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You really called mud buddy and asked for gator tail plans? That's awesome lol

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yep thought this forum was to help guys. i dont know much about mud motors other than what i have been trying to research and build. when i get info like that i figured it would help me out on a few things that i am struggling on. but nope guy wants to be a dink about it. thanks for making me look like an ass. i really dont know what i did but thanks again.


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did you ever get it built? I am interested in building one.


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Yeah any info on the project? Hope it is working out for ya.


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Plz read and comment


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What exactly was he complaining about? Sounds like a real stand-up guy :?

Good job on the project BTW, how's she run?

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poof?


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That didn't take very long.

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keystone light wrote:
That didn't take very long.


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Lol that's funny.

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BoatDR wrote:
keystone light wrote:
That didn't take very long.


X2



I knew I wasnt crazy!

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PaleoHuntr wrote:
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So I'm guessing it won't take long til my sig get deleted

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I kinda wanted to hear the rest of the story.

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keystone light wrote:
I kinda wanted to hear the rest of the story.

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a lil sneak peak to the maiden voyage

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aww man u really called, i feel bad..i was just takin a stab at mb. at least they helped u a bit,
i dont care who u r, thats funny right there


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I hope you at least asked something like this, "Hey, somebody on MMT told me if I called you, you could send me a copy of the GTR plans. Would you mind doing that?"

That way he would at least know that it was somebody on here screwing with you and not you screwing with him. Either way, deep down I think you know it was a good joke...

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