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GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
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Author:  Hogjaw [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
This is my first post here, but thank everyone in advance for taking the time to read this and possibly point me in the right direction. I’ve been running a long tail for years, but have just recently bought a 2006 35 GTR mounted on a 16’x48” welded flat boat. The transom is at 15 degrees and is 20.5” measured along the transom surface and 19.5” measured along a plumb dropped to the bottom plane of the hull. The attached photos show the engine trimmed all the way up and all the way down.

When trying to run the boat from a dead stop and with the motor trimmed either down, up, or any way in between, I don’t seem to be getting any thrust from the motor. It gets up to 3700-4000 RPMs, but just plows through the water and has a ton of trouble getting the boat onto plane. It almost seems to be sucking air. After a good bit of effort and trim adjusting, I can get the boat onto plane, but it almost immediately begins to porpoise. I can trim away some of the porpoising, but the boat easily falls off of plane and I start all over again.

I apologize if I’m missing something obvious, but again appreciate any hints you may be able to provide. I’m admittedly very green to these surface drive set-ups. and hope that I'm providing enough information for discussion.
Author:  DuckHunterF250 [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
have u tried moving the pin down in either of the next 2 holes, i see its in the top hole now.
Author:  Hogjaw [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Yes. The pin started in the bottom hole but was moved to the top hole in one of my attempts to figure out what was going on. The problem was the same with the pin at either setting.
Author:  OwenDickeson [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Transom needs to be 21" tall, and 20 degrees.
Author:  garrettpearce [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Y'all all wrong. It's the prop
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Raise the motor to were you 21" with the plumb measurement and order you a new prop!!
Author:  garrettpearce [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Yea he has the old style prop. They suck
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Yea it's a 11 but I bet it's only bout 10" or so lol
Author:  craig [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Author:  Buzz Killington [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:44 am ]
Post subject:  GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Prop for sure
X2^^
Author:  MaXXis85 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Author:  BROOKS [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
'06 year ?? Diffently the prop ..... Good props didn't come 'till '07 .... that's when the Gator-Tails sho-nuff set sail !!!! :D Gonna be yore best money spent !!!!
Author:  austinabear [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Author:  Hogjaw [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I just ordered a new 12" prop from Gator-Tail, so hopefully that will do the trick. I must comment on how nice the lady was that I spoke with. It took maybe two minutes to place to order and have it on its way.
Author:  Dmstrucks/02 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Let us know how it does with the new prop.
Author:  Hogjaw [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
I finally got a chance to run the boat with the new prop, and you guys were right. The boat runs awesome. The only other problem I have is that the motor is very hard to steer. Not just hard to steer when underway, but even sitting on the trailer it takes some effort to get it to turn. I don't notice any grease fittings anywhere to lube it, so is there something that I'm missing?
Thanks again for all of the help.
Author:  bengtr35 [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
There is two of them. One at the bottom of the pipe and one on top of the pipe where the engine pivots.
Author:  Hogjaw [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
My motor (2006) has a locknut on the top and bottom, but no grease fittings.
Author:  MaXXis85 [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
They have a 90*Grease fitting on the top and a stright one on the botton. Yours may have been broken and never replaced. They are tapped into the threaded vertical shaft.
Author:  WestEndAngler [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Author:  Hogjaw [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GTR 35 on 1648 - Can't Get Boat on Plane
Thanks again for all of the responses. I checked again, and I'm certain that there are no grease fittings on the motor pivot thing, nor is there any evidence that there once were grease fittings. All I have is a lock nut on top and bottom (I took photos, but can't post them at the moment). Maybe the older motors (2006) didn't have them? I loosened each about a quarter turn and noticed only a very slight improvement, so before I keep loosening them or disassemble the shaft I'd hoped that there was another fix.
Thanks.
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