Author |
Message |
coach92
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 3
|
Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
i have a 36 prodrive with power trim and manual reverse and im getting a new rig but i cant decide what to get. the prodrive has never let me down and i really like the reverse but im thinking about trying the gator tail out. trying to get some opinions?
|
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:15 pm |
|
|
brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Just do it... Both of those motors are great performers.. Gator tail has a little more tiller torque, and reverse isint as good, but still gets the job done... And the instant is a life saver in situations like froggin.
_________________ 1850 Uncle J Delta Performance level 4 GTR
|
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:18 pm |
|
|
dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
|
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:21 pm |
|
|
brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
More than just a few situations.. Pro drives reverse is really only good for getting you out of a bad situation.. it lifts the boat up and uses full thrust.. gator tails is more convenient but less effective.. still works pretty good tho, with the reverse plate..
_________________ 1850 Uncle J Delta Performance level 4 GTR
|
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:23 pm |
|
|
coach92
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 3
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
A few of my friends have a gator tail and i have noticed its not quite as comfortable to drive because of the tiller torque. hard to choose
|
Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:23 pm |
|
|
Team Camo
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Tiller torque can be eliminated by load distribution & adjusting torque tab on skeg
_________________ 1846 GTB & 35 GTR Team Gator-Tail
Killer Kallz & ANGLE PORT dealer (409) 720-8949
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:29 am |
|
|
marsh chicken
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:27 pm Posts: 492
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Y'all sound like my fiancé bitching about the tiller torque...it is minimal, and you can eliminate it just like camo said. You can dig deeper with the gtr and the instant reverse is very convenient. ESP when pulling up to docks, blinds, needing to stop abruptly, etc it's also a little easier to work on in the water bc of the motor being mounted the way it is. If you have an issue with your carb or muffler while out riding, you simply stand on the hunt deck and lean over. With the PD your ass may end up having to get in the water, which ain't always convenient
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:43 am |
|
|
BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
People always complain about the tiller torque, but if you take 30 seconds to adjust some things it's gone. I can drive mine with one finger.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:48 am |
|
|
OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Try it. You can always sell it.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:14 am |
|
|
MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Find a buddy who has a GTR and go run it in all your places. You need to try before you buy!
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:21 am |
|
|
JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 37 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Tiller SOLD -- 36 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Stick Steer SOLD -- 27 PD FPR 16x36 Skiff
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:26 am |
|
|
pearl river outlaw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:12 am Posts: 1407 Location: Louisville Ms
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
I've driven both of them. Me GTR was the way to go. I love the instant reverse its worth its weight in gold. The tiller touque they talking about yeah the GTR has more of that then the PD but it's not bad and not hard at all to fix. I've about go mine driven as smooth as a outboard now. Only thing over iI like about the PD over the GTR is the PD is a lower profile motor then the GTR. So you got more clearance then you do with a GTR. Both are great motors I got one and another guy that duck hunts with me has the PD.
_________________ Back Yard Bullshit 1848 with Delta stage II cam & heads, MAC, with a Mikuni juice pump.
No I wasn't talking about you but if the shoe fits lace that bitch up & wear it!!!!
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:02 am |
|
|
pearl river outlaw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:12 am Posts: 1407 Location: Louisville Ms
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
O and mine runs a little faster to
_________________ Back Yard Bullshit 1848 with Delta stage II cam & heads, MAC, with a Mikuni juice pump.
No I wasn't talking about you but if the shoe fits lace that bitch up & wear it!!!!
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:03 am |
|
|
CCC
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 1685
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
The tiller torque isn't bad on the gator tail if you know how to run it, it also has a more practical reverse for fishing, docking and decoys. Pro drive is more like an outboard not much torque at all, and the reverse is for getting unstuck.
I just went trough this and I field like the gatortail did better in the mud, but I liked the prodrive so I got a 36. I don't need the reverse for fishing got a tran cat for that. And I got a prodrive dealer 5 min from the house that was another big factor
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:13 am |
|
|
CCC
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 1685
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
I would drive both
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:17 am |
|
|
craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:32 am |
|
|
coach92
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 3
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
thibodaux
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:02 am |
|
|
Will
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
If I had the money I would have both, every post above this one is spot on. Each has it's own pros and cons depending on what your using it for.
_________________ Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:45 am |
|
|
craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 am |
|
|
Migrator
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
^There you have it. All depends on what you are running in. I have friends w/ the PD that run in places that out perform the rest. I have also seen them struggle in certain situations. They all have their place. Nice to have options. As for the tiller torque...Don't Be a Puss!
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:16 am |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Man! I keep hearing how fast the Gator Tails are! But last week while building blinds one lill Dude in a 16x54 all weld with a stock 35 came ride with us! Well in deep water and shallow with me my 7yr old and another adult I guess aprox 180 i could easily leave him!!!! I have heads and exhaust!! Seems like they are only fast if u mod the shit out of em!!!! Just what I have seen.....Oh and he was empty alone!!
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:48 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
So your motor is modded and you ran a stock motor!! Same mods in both motors you get left behind!! Lol
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:52 pm |
|
|
msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:53 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:56 pm |
|
|
CJB
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:46 am Posts: 5216 Location: Across the Bayou, LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 35 GTR - 1754 Extreme
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:59 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
1 mph is fast on the water. My boat with a stock 35 Briggs 30.5 what were you running stock mine is a 18x50. Running 27 and running 29 don't seam like much but on the water it alot!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:00 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Just for the record since going to the marine motors they are somewhat slower. Gt changed the gearing in them for better bottom end
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:01 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
My boat ran 28 average stock in deep. Runs 30 since heads in deep...17x54 boat. I run a steady 28 loaded and that's about what I was running that day...
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:03 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
That about what the differance was between a gt and a Pd!! 1.5 to 2 mph!! Since Pd went to marine motors I find they run alot faster than they use to. Not much differance in speed between the two now
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:05 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:06 pm |
|
|
Migrator
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 3227 Location: Black River, MS
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
1-2 mph makes a lot of difference when running side by side. You have a good rig and your happy with it...or so it seems. Stick with it unless you are into racing mud boats or have buddies that are able to do things you cant and that bothers you. It's all about personnal preference.
_________________ WC CUSTOM 20X54 Battleship w/ Gator Glide Pushed & Pulled hard by an HDR!
Don't be scared...Hit It and Hold It!!!
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:10 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
I Want to run 30 mph light or with 5 people lol
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:11 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
Yea...I like it. Never drove a gator tail, and I think when frogging I might rataher thier reverse! But I cannot complain about the pd....
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:13 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
I'm about to go back to a stock carb with a governor system on my motor I just like the bottom end it has with it
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:15 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:17 pm |
|
|
deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
If I had more mods maybe but all I got is 20 over heads and a cam I think I got to much carb maybe I'm wrong but I know my other motor I had never bogged in lillies or mud this one does
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:19 pm |
|
|
craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:20 pm |
|
|
tchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:23 pm Posts: 4898 Location: Bourg LA
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:23 pm |
|
|
craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:24 pm |
|
|
craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
|
Re: Pro Drive vs Gator Tail
They are weaker due to the high output charging system that strains the fuck out of the engine.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
|
Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:27 pm |
|
|
|