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Quack N Stack
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 2225 Location: Baytown, Tejas
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Boss Hoss tiller
Well this popped up on the Boss FB page this morning...glad to see they are working on a tiller concept for it but im not all that positive about it..looks like a good part to break at a bad time imo. https://www.facebook.com/bossdrives/vid ... 105025501/
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:47 am |
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CypressCritter
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:36 am Posts: 822 Location: Jefferson TX
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
They gonna have to show and demo them damn things, youtube videos will not get me to spend the over 10k for something I haven't driven, much less seen in action. Same goes for those Freedom Mud Motors. Both need to show at one of these fun runs and demo the goods. I ready to up grade to get away from the old GTR reverse. Hell I even got the funds, I'm just waiting on somebody to show, place, and win!
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:52 am |
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Buckmark311
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:50 am Posts: 284
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
looks awesome. all for some innovation. Tests runs on these things will lead to some sales
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:59 am |
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4Cody4
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Looks positive
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:32 am |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Holy hoses!
I like it, but I don't like that steering set up.
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:58 pm |
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brickgw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm Posts: 2032
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
A tiller 75....at least were moving in the right direction.
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:32 am |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Ok, who's go on a be the first one to end up in the trees with that steering
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:27 am |
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Brokeknee
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:32 pm Posts: 261
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
I wouldn't classify it as a tiller steer, more of an electric steering stick.
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:09 pm |
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netman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 pm Posts: 2363 Location: Chandler,Indiana
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
I'm like you Cypress. I'm ready to spring for a new motor with a real reverse. So far from what I have driven the real reverse is yet to be seen. That's why I'm still rolling a gdsd from 2005.
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:04 pm |
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t_corell
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:02 am Posts: 45
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Looks like a Mercury Big Tiller kit with hydro assist steering. If so, Mercury has been offer this kit for high HP outboards for around 10 years. It also has a price tag around $2400
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Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:05 pm |
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b.latiolais
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:06 pm Posts: 314 Location: Bridge City
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
How the hell is he turning it? Is it just a slight movement with the tiller?
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:54 am |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Yeah. It's a hydraulic system, when you move the handle, it opens a valve on one side of the system to turn the motor. Mercury and Honda both have a version. Edit: I didn't look closely. It may be an electric.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:15 am |
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Quack N Stack
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 2225 Location: Baytown, Tejas
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
And thats the part that would worry me. Not reliability wise but more so could get you in trouble quickly in some narrow stuff. If you have to have a quick reaction turn theres no room for operation error there i would think..
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:14 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:37 pm |
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Quack N Stack
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 2225 Location: Baytown, Tejas
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:03 pm |
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4Cody4
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
You could just order the boat with a bigger bumper and strap yourself to the transom.
Problem solved.
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:12 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
New boat design: heavy springs holding the pipe front on the boat, smaller springs on the gunnel near the back with some flat bar to work as a bumper. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:41 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Airbags?
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:44 pm |
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dukester903
MMT Member
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:13 pm Posts: 35 Location: Shreveport La.
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
I think cb is on to something here
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Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:58 pm |
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:19 am |
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CypressCritter
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:36 am Posts: 822 Location: Jefferson TX
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Willow trees at least a little flexible, it would be one of those big ass cypress trees that would be what I worry about. They sure do a number on those "jet skis" and the id10t driver.
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:58 am |
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Would love to put that in a mini mud inboard
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Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:49 pm |
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netman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 pm Posts: 2363 Location: Chandler,Indiana
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Anyone seeing this motor out on the water ? Anywhere?
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Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:21 am |
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Mallards Only
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm Posts: 404 Location: Idaho
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Ain't no way I'd buy a motor with that kind of steering. Ever tried to trim or tilt your motor up and down fast? Same would be true with any kind of electical/hydraulic steering. It would never respond fast enough for some situations. I challenge someone to run through flooded timber or even a marsh with several tule patches and maneuver around them with that type of steering. Can't be done at anything more than the slowest idle speed. Nice try, Boss Hoss but back to the drawing board.
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Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:23 am |
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bluesky2012
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Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:19 am Posts: 981
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
One user on here does have the console model of the motor. He has a custom boat getting built now so I would expect reviews from him in 2-3 weeks. I'll push him to give reviews on here.
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Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:14 am |
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
It's a time proven steering set up used on high dollar boats and race boats , so I think it will move faster than u think
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Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:29 pm |
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Mallards Only
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm Posts: 404 Location: Idaho
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
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Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:46 am |
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CypressCritter
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:36 am Posts: 822 Location: Jefferson TX
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
Even regular hydraulic steering is not fast enough in the timber. So??????? A manual tiller steer is maybe not faster but a lot more "controllable" in those tight situations. This is the same as a plug remote steering(like winch controller) they use on those fishing "yacht". ok for open water but not so in "confined" waters.
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Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:19 am |
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netman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 pm Posts: 2363 Location: Chandler,Indiana
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
This steering debate reminds me of a conversation between my mom and dad when I was a kid. Mom wanted a new tv with remote control. My dad was defensive about the remote and how 'we' did not need one. He would just say Randy go change the channel. I would get up walk over to the tv and turn the knob through all four channels until he said put it back to where we started.
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Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:28 pm |
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
if u are in that heavy of timber u are idling , ( unless ur freddy king ) steering should not be a problem
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Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:35 am |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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Re: Boss Hoss tiller
There is no difference between this and hydro steering on a center console as far as safety is concerned
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