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As a leading House Democrat demands information about the response to COVID-19 in nursing homes from the federal government — and a quintet of top operators — his Republican counterparts have targeted governors whose states required facilities to take in patients with COVID-19.

Rep. Steve Scalise, the Louisiana Republican who serves as the ranking member on the House’s Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, led a group of GOP lawmakers in sending letters to five state governors, all Democrats, asking for detailed information about their COVID-19 policies for nursing homes.

“The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic has disproportionately affected the elderly, especially those living in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities,” the U.S. representatives wrote in the introduction to each letter. “We write seeking information, at a granular level, about the science and information used to inform your decision to mandate nursing homes and long-term care facilities admit untested and contagious COVID-19 patients from hospitals.”

The letters, dated June 15, were sent to Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York, Gov. Phil Murphy of New Jersey, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, and Gov. Tom Wolf of Pennsylvania.


In each one, Scalise and his fellow Republican lawmakers asserted that the governors’ response to COVID-19 “likely contributed to the thousands of elderly deaths” in their respective states.

Scalise — along with co-signatories Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Rep. Blaine Luetkenmeyer of Missouri, Rep. Jackie Walorski of Indiana, and Rep. Mark Green of Tennessee — asked for a host of information from each state governor, including:

A chronological list of all orders regarding hospital discharges to nursing homes and other senior living facilities
Data on nursing home deaths due to COVID-19
Communications among the governors’ offices, state health departments, and long-term care facility operators
Communications from nursing home administrators to government officials

At the heart of the GOP lawmakers’ objections are controversial edicts, issued early in the coronavirus crisis, that required nursing homes to take patients regardless of their COVID-19 status — which in general meant they could not deny residents because they had either tested positive for the novel coronavirus or had an uncertain status.

The mandates reflect the top concern of state health departments at the time: The fear that a sudden spike in COVID-19 cases among the general public would overwhelm acute-care hospitals, making post-acute beds a vital resource reserved only for those in need of the most urgent attention.

That same urge also manifested itself in the conversion of non-medical facilities — such as New York’s Jacob K. Javits Convention Center and Chicago’s McCormick Place exhibition complex — though such properties were lightly used in the end, as well as federal waivers allowing for reimbursements at non-licensed sites of care.

New York’s Cuomo has borne the brunt of the criticism over the mandatory-admission edicts, although he and Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) administrator Seema Verma have sparred in the media over whether the mandates were in line with federal recommendations.

The Scalise letters point out that CMS guidance from March directed nursing homes to accept residents “that they would normally admit to their facility,” but only if they could meet coronavirus containment recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC).

“Just about the worst possible thing to do is knowingly introduce coronavirus to the most vulnerable populations, yet that’s exactly what several states did by mandating nursing homes accept infected patients,” Walorski said in a statement. “These misguided policies deserve close scrutiny, and the leaders who put them in place have a lot of tough questions to answer.”

In New York, Cuomo asserted that any facility that could not safely handle COVID-19 patients should have contacted the state health department to make alternative arrangements for placement. The Empire State seemingly reversed the mandate in mid-May, and a spokesperson for Cuomo dismissed the Scalise letter as coming from a group of “craven political hacks,” according to the New York Post.

“Nothing can cover for the fact that the federal government failed, specific federal guidelines were issued and followed by more than a dozen states, and that present state law … states that a nursing home shall accept and retain only those residents for whom it can provide adequate care — specifically outlawing nursing homes from accepting patients they cannot care for,” the spokesperson told the publication.

Across the country, shortages of personal protective equipment (PPE), lack of access to testing, and occasionally conflicting guidance from various authorities all conspired to accelerate the spread of the disease in nursing homes — coupled with persistent issues around infection control and the vulnerable nature of long-term care residents.

The letter comes as the Democratic chairman of the House’s coronavirus panel, Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, issued a similarly exhaustive demand for information from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and five top nursing home providers: Genesis HealthCare (NYSE: GEN), The Ensign Group (Nasdaq: ENSG), Life Care Centers of America, Consulate Health Care, and SavaSeniorCare.

Clyburn criticized CMS’s strategy for COVID-19 in nursing homes, accusing the agency of failing to use its power and instead deferring oversight to state and local authorities.

“CMS has issued guidance for nursing homes, but this guidance has often been unclear, and CMS failed to take adequate steps to ensure that nursing homes comply with its recommendations,” Clyburn wrote. “Deregulation and lax enforcement of infection control violations by CMS — both before and during the pandemic — may have contributed to the spread of the virus.”

The subcommittee chairman also requested sheafs of information from the five providers, including detailed information about their current and projected levels of PPE, total Medicare and Medicaid revenue stretching back to 2018, and all complaints regarding COVID-19 in their facilities.

“We are writing to seek documents and information regarding the deaths of men and women in your company’s nursing homes during the coronavirus outbreak, the conditions that may have contributed to these deaths, and any steps taken to protect residents and workers from further tragedy,” each letter, addressed to each company’s CEO, reads in its introduction.

The Clyburn letters gave CMS and the five operators until June 30 to comply. Scalise requested the data and a remote briefing by this Thursday.

The Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, according to Clyburn’s office, was created in the mold of the Truman Committee, a Senate group launched to root out corruption and profiteering during World War II.

The subcommittee sits under the larger House Oversight Committee, which Scalise said “has broad authority to investigate ‘any matter’ at ‘any time’ under House Rule X.”

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The influenza pandemic of 1918-19, for example, tended to kill otherwise healthy people in the prime of life, ages 20 to 40. COVID-19 tends to kill people age 70 and above, especially those with comorbidities.

Yet, despite that being apparent early on, America's governors have done a poor job of protecting those most at risk - residents of nursing homes with physical frailties and, often, cognitive impairment.

The result: One-third of reported coronavirus deaths in the United States, according to New York Times reporting, are of nursing home residents or workers. Nursing homes accounted for a majority of deaths in heavily hit states like New Jersey (52%), Massachusetts (59%), Pennsylvania (66%) and Connecticut (55%) and for 80% of the deaths in otherwise lightly hit Minnesota.

That percentage is much lower (20%) in America's COVID-19 epicenter, New York, but it still leads the nation with 5,403 nursing home deaths - about one of every 14 COVID-19 death in the country.

On March 25, the state health commissioner ordered that nursing homes accept patients with the virus. It's unclear why he made this fatal decision. Maybe he wanted to keep hospital beds available, or maybe he feared that sick people would be dumped onto the street.

When asked about this policy in late April, Gov. Andrew Cuomo professed ignorance. Two weeks later, on May 9, after 46 days in effect, he reversed it.

New York wasn't the only state that insisted on placing infected patients in nursing homes. New Jersey's policy was similar, explicitly barring homes from requiring testing before admitting patients. California had the same policy but dropped it after 10 days.

Other states, recognizing the dangers of infecting the vulnerable, required or encouraged nursing homes to set up separate units or staffs to handle patients testing positive. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, widely criticized in the national media for avoiding a total lockdown, zeroed in on nursing homes, encouraging repeated testing and temperature-taking of residents and staff and isolating anyone testing positive. Florida, a state with 2 million more people than New York, had just 714 nursing home deaths, 13% of the number in New York.

It's hard to disagree with the verdict of National Review's Jim Geraghty: "These decisions are so spectacularly wrongheaded, so epically foolish, that those responsible deserve to be remembered forever."

Government officials' decisions about a novel virus will often turn out to be mistakes that cost lives. But decisions to send viral patients into nursing homes comes the closest to justifying screams of, "There's blood on your hands!"

Fortunately, societies can learn from mistakes. We have learned that the virus is not easily spread in open spaces. We have learned that the risk of fatalities among children and adolescents is near zero, perhaps less than that of seasonal flu.

We have learned our hospitals aren't going to be overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients and that ventilators don't always help. We have learned that it's possible to protect elderly people, even nursing home residents with comorbidities, with high but not total effectiveness.

And we have become aware, if only out of the corner of our eyes, that the lockdown of large segments of the economy wreaks not just economic damage, but also has enormous negative consequences for public health, especially among disadvantaged people.

All of this points in the direction of phasing out lockdowns and allowing reopenings, at various rates depending on particular circumstances, and avoiding obvious blunders, like sending infections into nursing homes.

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MNGunner: I really appreciate your research. Having tried 8 bench trials in the past 4 weeks, I’ve had little outside time.

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But do you - "have blood on your hands" - if you mandate that all nursing homes must take
Covid positive patients in the midst of a rising novel coronavirus pandemic ???

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Lets talk "bare shelves"....

Obama started his 8 years stripping away military spending - ending Space Exploration - giving
away uranium mines - cutting a contract on the most dominant air frame in human history
the F-22 which has put us behind the curve on air dominance....

Those are the "bare shelves" which the prior leadership left behind....

Forced to work with a House that spends its full time on trumped up charges and gaslighting
activities which they themselves employ daily... All I see is a a democratic party that promotes
mass abortion - civil unrest - and a complete lack of patriotism and love of country which it has
replaced with a single minded desire to drag our country thru the mud to win the Oval Office....

But that is just my opinion on the current 'bare shelves" of American national morality displayed
by the Democratic leaders in Washington today and from the Obama era....

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"bare shelves" - well by the time you need a ventilator your odds of recovery are poor... However

new sources were found though American factories that had never produced them and a national

stockpile was rationed to states as the need arose - preventing a huge shortfall... By allowing

Doctors to try new treatments we now have the lowest death rate in hospitals of any nation and

military supplies of cutting edge medicine was given free of charge to those in need and it reduced

a patient's stay in the hospital... Billions are going to "fast track" a vaccine and in record time

a dozen candidates are in phase II or phase III trials... If you had been getting your regular Flu

shots each year you already have some immunity via the H1N1 component in the routine flu shots...



IMO - there were no "bare shelves" --- our biggest issue is reliance on China --- most people
don't know but for the last decade we have had no ability to manufacture even basic 1960's
style medicines like penicillin and simple antibiotics here in the USA --- all domestic production
was outsourced to China... China is the enemy --- China is the problem --- no matter who
sits in the Oval Office...

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I liked what Charley Reese wrote in his last Column - he is retiring and left us with this....

Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...


This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day. It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!



545 vs. 300,000,000 People -By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine
how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House now ? She and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility.

I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

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New York - 32,373 deaths - Governor of New York State, Andrew M. Cuomo - you sir have blood on your hands....

Cuomo managed to ensure tripple the deaths of California which has had far more Covid cases than New York by forcing Covid positive cases into nursing homes....

Five times the deaths in Texas which has also had far more cases than New York....

Five times the deaths of Florida which has had far more cases than New York....

That deed is on his head ! ! ! - Cuomo has killed more Americans than any other Governor for his party to up the death count - in the words of Obama's Chief of Staff - "never let a good crisis go to waste" - a phrase Rahm Emanuel was know for as an adviser to U.S. President Bill Clinton before being elected as Mayor of Chicago

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Gigafowl: I appreciate all the posts about Governors and nursing homes, but the fundamental flaw in this whole response is not what Governors did or did not do. It is what the federal governement and T-Trump did not do. He failed to implement nationwide mask mandates and other mandatory guidelines like other countries did. The buck stops with him.

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Federal law and seat belts: why don't you quote the federal law relating to them, Dean.

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President declared a national emergency. Under the act he can impose mandates. Look it up.

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November 2019 at the UN - listen to this Trump speach - it is
the real reason they want you to hate Trump !



He said,

Wise leaders always put the good of their own people and their own country first.

The future does not belong to GLOBALISTS the future belongs to PATRIOTS.


And then Covid was unleashed upon the US just weeks later !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLNbLohcMM



Look at the big picture - the choice is simple - stand with America right now or fall with the
New World Order in the not so distant future - there is no other choice - IMO

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In reference to vehicles behind made after 1986, not in how seatbelt laws and regulations are enforced state to state. Every state has different laws regarding seatbelt usage. Most laws are different from state to state, which is why, for example, you cannot enforce insurance laws and violations on vehicles registered out of state because not all states require vehicle insurance like louisiana does.


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