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What’s the word on the street about this?
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What is that??? A turbo or a supercharger? How much is it and what’s the word? Lol

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I'm guessing turbo.

Ob design does turbos on other stuff. Snowmobiles, argos, etc. Check their Facebook page.

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Here's one pic from there.Image

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Great, another horse power addition to a shitty lawnmower engine. If they really want to revolutionize the MM or "surface drive" industry, they need to develop an air cooled outboard engine because the power to weight ratio is way better. These keep adding bigger engines and modifications but the weight is absolutely crazy. Kinda defeats the purpose when your trying to keep it lite.

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Great, another horse power addition to a shitty lawnmower engine. If they really want to revolutionize the MM or "surface drive" industry, they need to develop an air cooled outboard engine because the power to weight ratio is way better. These keep adding bigger engines and modifications but the weight is absolutely crazy. Kinda defeats the purpose when your trying to keep it lite.
I agree 100%, need better technology for the base, quit putting lipstick on these pigs.

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It actually a waffle maker.


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once you replace the stock rods, pistons, carb, cam, exhaust it is no longer a lawn mower engine.... Not all work is equal and for the money you cant beat the briggs. Boost helps any engine, BUT we are using heat to make more power which makes more heat on an air cooled motor.... To be right it will need good cooling capabilities and then address the camshaft/ cylinder heads and exhaust

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MaXXis85 wrote:
once you replace the stock rods, pistons, carb, cam, exhaust it is no longer a lawn mower engine.... Not all work is equal and for the money you cant beat the briggs. Boost helps any engine, BUT we are using heat to make more power which makes more heat on an air cooled motor.... To be right it will need good cooling capabilities and then address the camshaft/ cylinder heads and exhaust


I understand what your saying, but when i sold my PD, that thing shipped was 350-375 lbs. On my hull it ran constant 34 and burned its share of fuel. When I put my Yamaha 70 on it, at 228 lbs, the power to weight ratio is stupid. Hell I bear hugged it from off the floor and placed it on my transom. I'm with Will, there are some great engine builders on this site and there were lots more years back who all did fantastic work inside and out. But the base of the build is still a briggs, kawi, generac, Kohler lawnmower block.

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https://www.facebook.com/10198223321995 ... 384019895/

Just found this video. The turbo is available now.


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BPS had a really bad day on social media. He did a live Q&A and couldn’t start the motor. Several people said some negative things about it and BPS threatened to file a lawsuit against them all.

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I agree with Will,even after engine 3000,mikuni kit 700,cam 300,head work 600,exhaust 600,pistons and rods 800,its 6k without a frame and a briggs after all that.The motus v4 or something of that nature is the future.


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The motus is 10k for the engine alone. I doubt that's the real answer, but yes, it's not gonna be briggs.

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I’m not impressed with the speeds he is getting in that turbo setup at all. Should be running 40s and above imo. I’m running with he is running with the turbo just with the right hull combination.

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I haven't looked at the info, but speeds are a result of prop rpms and prop pitch, based on what the engine is capable of turning with the load it's trying to shove. You know this. The ultimate goal of my wrench turning was carrying a load with my smaller boat. I could turn more prop and probably hit 40, but it wouldn't handle the loads I consistently put in it. If that boat they were using wasnt propped for speed, it still may maintain a good bit of speed with a much heavier load simply because the engine was capable of turning the prop regardless. Again, I haven't gone to Facebook or seen anything other than yall have posted here.

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That is very possible. Maybe their tests were done with a low pitched 2 blade for great load carrying capability. I just think for the price, getting marcus, will, or Jeremiah to do heads and a cam would be a much better choice and yield better results, but that’s my my opinion.

But you are correct, they may be running a load carrying prop and that could explain the speeds when tested. I would think with the power they claim to be tapping into, they would be turning at least a 12 pitch but who knows

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I just watched the 19 min video and not once did they start the damn thing.

Here's my take on the entire "mud motor" industry. These things were originally made for an intended purpose, shallow water drive system. As the years and manufacturers grew, the "build war" started. Mine is better than your in this aspect. Then one manufacture made a slight change to get ahead. All the while, we as consumers kept buying the latest and greatest. The lawnmower block was used why??? because it was readily available. It could be purchased just about anywhere. Its an air cooled block that produces power, however, with power comes reliability issues. Whether its a block issue, exhaust, something is going to break. That's just the nature of these things and you better learn how to fix your own shit, or you'll be spending even more money for repairs.

Take for instance the clutch system. No matter how much power you can squeeze out of these air cooled blocks, it all has to be transferred through the clutch. If you want to be innovative, design a gearbox, cone clutch, dogs, anything than a lawnmower clutch. Oh wait, that would require some engineering and though. These manufacturers continue to put out great products, BUT...... money rules the world. If i can put a $200 lawnmower engine and clutch and sell for XXX amount of money and you buy it.......... its a win / win for me. One, because you bought it and 2nd, because you'll come back after the parts break. No brainer.

How about any of these think outside the box. Take a vertical outboard engine and put a Pro-drive lower unit on it. (I only say prodrive due to outboard being vert). Now you have eliminated tons of weight and still will achieve the same of better results. Even with the small additional weight of the radiator, your still better off. But as long as they continue to come out with all these bolt on performance parts, folks will continue to buy them, why, because its easy.

I can go on and on about these things and the way some (none on the site here now) were "preying" on the stupid charging stupid amounts of money for shitty work all because Joe Blow would pay it.

lastly being I'm venting, :lol: , If and when someone thinks outside the box and comes up with a great "new" design, please make it so that I don't hear your ass coming from 2 miles away. With the outboard, it sure is nice to have a conversation with someone at wide open throttle.

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Wchauvin wrote:
I’m not impressed with the speeds he is getting in that turbo setup at all. Should be running 40s and above imo. I’m running with he is running with the turbo just with the right hull combination.


You can produce 200 HP, but if the rpm, prop pitch and diameter is still the same, you'll basically have the same top speed as a 40 HP.

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Yeah that’s true. Seems like they would have pitched and worked the props and turned up more rpms for the test to say what it runs with the right combo.... just my opinion

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I would like to build a "not for consumer use" version of this , lol


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^ that would be savage bro lol :D

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BPS had a really bad day on social media. He did a live Q&A and couldn’t start the motor. Several people said some negative things about it and BPS threatened to file a lawsuit against them all.


doesnt shock me at all, owner is an absolute tool. Tried helping out a guy having MB issues on another forum and we went a few rounds. Goes by BillCollector over on the refuge forums. Wouldnt let anyone give any advice on it being motor issues it was "water logged foam"... :roll: :roll:

http://refugeforums.com/threads/no-powe ... d.1038516/


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ksgoosekillr wrote:
WhoDat88 wrote:
BPS had a really bad day on social media. He did a live Q&A and couldn’t start the motor. Several people said some negative things about it and BPS threatened to file a lawsuit against them all.


doesnt shock me at all, owner is an absolute tool. Tried helping out a guy having MB issues on another forum and we went a few rounds. Goes by BillCollector over on the refuge forums. Wouldnt let anyone give any advice on it being motor issues it was "water logged foam"... :roll: :roll:

http://refugeforums.com/threads/no-powe ... d.1038516/


LOL! Perfect timing. The link above shows exactly what Will, and Russ also just explained.
BTW, it was a really good day on social media. Phone hasn't quit ringing since.

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I think the real question is did you actually threaten lawsuits on social media after putting forced induction on a briggs?

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