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cc1790
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Looking for advice - Which way would you go
Looking to get more power and speed to carry a load on my 2060 Phowler. Currently have twin 36 prodrives Gen 3, stock engines with carb . Looking at one of three options, looking for opinions / advice and what you would do:
Option 1: Put new 40hp EFI power heads on - Probably about $8k total, get 3 year warranty?
Option 2: Do motor mods (need input on which ones and what cost would be)?
Option 3: Sell mud motors and put on 90hp outboard with jackplate?
Thoughts?
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:26 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
Well, what do you do with the boat?
I think you'd be in good shape with new power heads and new lower unit with the better gear ratio
But i'd also like the outboard route that's a big boat
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:38 pm |
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cc1790
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Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:01 pm Posts: 7
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:36 pm |
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Will
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
Option 1 makes the most sense for cost, efficiency, simplicity, resale, warranty, etc. Plus, you can run a higher rpm to help speed with the Gen 3. ECU can be flashed to spin on up. They have a lot more torque than what you have now. Don't get hung up on it only being 4 more hp on paper. The 40 gains a lot more on the power curve.
Option 2 question, would you do the work or need someone else to do it? Could get more power than option one but no warranty and potential issues and limited to 4750 rpm on the coils.
Option 3 If you don't need a surface drive, could be an option but you're rigged for duals, factor in steering, throttle and controls modifications to swap. Could cost the most, I would go on up to a 115 if taking that route.
Option 4 wait a little longer, sell it and get a new Prodrive with duals that have FPR and instant reverse.
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
_________________ Refurbishing a Prodrive
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:22 am |
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fishaholic82
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:04 am Posts: 406 Location: Houma, La.
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
I would personally modify what you currently have. Heads, cam, exhaust, and a Mikuni would wake those engines up and also be the cheapest option.
_________________ To fish or not to fish? What a stupid question. 17/54 Extreme Hull with a 35GTR with just a basic build.
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banded-mallard
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
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Heads - depending on what you have and want are about $600 or so Cam - about $300 - $350 Minuki setup or depending on what you have and want.
replacing the power head is going to do very very little with a gen 3 lower. Its just geared to low. Now load carrying capacity is a different story. Dual PD gen 3 lowers with heads and cam could haul whatever that boat can hold without sinking. Here is a very old pic from when I had my Briggs before kawi swap. Gen 2 lower which gen 3 will tote better load.
6 boxes of siding, 2x6's, compressor, generator, ladders, fuel, small ice chest, large ice chest, clothes for weekend of work. This boat was 19'8" x 48" bottom. heads, cam exhaust, mikuni would get up and run low mid 20's with that load. Oh and 2 grown guys. So your hull isn't much longer, will be wider thus draft less water and add another engine. No brainer, modify what you have.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am |
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cc1790
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Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:01 pm Posts: 7
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:08 pm |
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cc1790
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:09 pm |
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Will
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
_________________ Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:31 pm |
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cc1790
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:41 pm |
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fishaholic82
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:04 am Posts: 406 Location: Houma, La.
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
_________________ To fish or not to fish? What a stupid question. 17/54 Extreme Hull with a 35GTR with just a basic build.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:21 pm |
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fishaholic82
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
Forgot to add that the new 40 hp efi engines are around $4,300 last I checked.
_________________ To fish or not to fish? What a stupid question. 17/54 Extreme Hull with a 35GTR with just a basic build.
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JBsuperG
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Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:51 pm Posts: 263 Location: Michigan
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
OP could probably recoup some by selling is stock power heads if he goes to the 40.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:26 pm |
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banded-mallard
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
The only problem with trying to sell his current power heads is the market sucks for them right now due to so many 40 swaps. If its about money and he's machanically inclined, then mod current setup. If money is not limiting factor, then go 40's. Check out the classifieds and see haw many older CDI non-efi power heads are still hanging around.
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Wchauvin
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
Is that picture at the launch by hanko in the intracoastal?
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:47 am |
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banded-mallard
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
yep from oh shit like 2009. That was a barge of a boat my buddy had that I threw my PD on after the briggs mods. Then I built my current 17'6" x48"
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cb5331
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JIMMY W
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Re: Looking for advice - Which way would you go
_________________ 17/54 GT EXTREME Center Console, Huntdeck w/ GTR 35
Hoyt Mods and some other goodies
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banded-mallard
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JBsuperG
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