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any of yall run aviation fuel?

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Guess I can consider myself lucky...gotta gas station right down the road from my house and it's NO ETHANOL.



What brand ????

I thought Texas lost it's last refinery producing NO Ethanol fuel ????

Its a Citgo gas station. Sign in the front of the store and out front of the store says " NO ETHANOL GUARANTEED"

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Thanks

http://www.citgo.com/Locator/StoreLocator.jsp

Gonna check them out down here....

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No problem. I remember the tanker truck said Petro Link on the side.

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I know this post is a little older but it was a good read. I myself owning a gas station HATE ethanol thats why we pay any where from .05 to .07 cents more a gallon when we order fuel cause we get it ethenol free. We are the only station that does that around here and the people don't mind paying a little more for better gas. Especially when they run it in their performance boats or even just their Chainsaw. Ethenol is the devil on those little carbs in a chainsaw/


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Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!

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Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!


That's all I ran in my last engine! 100LL av gas mixed 50/50 with 93 octane kept the detonation down.

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Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!


That's all I ran in my last engine! 100LL av gas mixed 50/50 with 93 octane kept the detonation down.



So why with all the mods DDM has run - has he insisted he just ran "regular" gas - is
he just kidding or not aware of the damage cheap / low octane fuel can do ???

To me that seems to be a big reason many modded motors go BOOM - the pre-TDC-detonation ???

If I was gonna mod an engine - I would do like you are and feed it the best fuel cause
these lil motors don't burn hardly any fuel compared to other big boy toys ! ! !

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The more octane i'n fuel the less chance for pre ignition. I have heard of folks mixing 50/50 avgas/ 93 like Craig.
Higher octane fuels don't provide more power. They are for engines
With higher compression ratios so they can run to their full potential. Without pre ignition before spark plug fire.

Those running modded motors with higher compression and advanced timing need to run 93 octane fuel. If not there is a chance when you get that bad boy hot preigniton can happen and prolonged effects can put a hole i'n a piston or cause other damage.


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I have always ran 93 in my boats even stock!! My first motor I ran octane booster second didn't need it this one 93!!

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Gigafowl wrote:
craig wrote:
MaXXis85 wrote:
Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!


That's all I ran in my last engine! 100LL av gas mixed 50/50 with 93 octane kept the detonation down.



So why with all the mods DDM has run - has he insisted he just ran "regular" gas - is
he just kidding or not aware of the damage cheap / low octane fuel can do ???

To me that seems to be a big reason many modded motors go BOOM - the pre-TDC-detonation ???

If I was gonna mod an engine - I would do like you are and feed it the best fuel cause
these lil motors don't burn hardly any fuel compared to other big boy toys ! ! !


He was running the EVT intake which allows the engine to run cooler than the BPS intake, and he used octane booster in place of high octane fuel.

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any idea how long the 10% ethanol fuel keeps with an added fuel stabilizer like sea foam?

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http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/faq.aspx#2
Q: How long will STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer keep fuel fresh?
A: STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer will keep fuel fresh for up to 12 months, guaranteed. Depending on the quality, type and source of the gasoline, as well as storage conditions, doubling the dosage rate of STA-BIL could prolong this storage time to up to 2 years. However, any gasoline stored for more than 12 months will tend to lose volatility (ignitability), which could lead to hard starting or no start conditions after this long storage period. NO additive, STA-BIL included, will prevent volatility loss in fuel. To reduce fuel volatility loss during storage, we recommend filling your tank at least 95% full with fresh fuel and STA-BIL, and store in cool conditions away from direct sunlight if possible.

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brycecheramie wrote:
i have a 23 hp mudbuddy.
would it be okay to put 93 octane in it?
ive always put 87 with a water/fuel sperator.


can you not fuuckin read.... shit

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http://pure-gas.org/ There are plenty of places to buy ethanol free gas and yes it does get me about 3 more mpg.


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How would 112 octane run in a 5500 black death, would it damage the engine.


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is it okay if i use old gas as long as its been inside its can. its 93 so that must mean its 93% pure. im scared and dont know what to do so i come here to ask and get my posts count up. I'm a grown man and cant figure this out on my own! :lol: :lol:

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One additional note, almost all fuel on the market contains 4% ethonal since the phase out MTBE. Second, Stabile, the new Marine Stable and many of the other old standby products only do some much, once phase seperation occurs, no amount of these products will help, we are seeing alot of situation of phase seperation after only 3-5 months with this products, and we had recommended these for years now.

Here is our best advice to our customers, if it is going to sit more them 4 months, get it out of the tank, period.

When in use when in use we are now recommending a new product called K100 fuel additive, it does not phase seperate and it does break down the water/ethonal mix and encapsolate it so it can burn off.

We have been using K100 ourselves for over two years and with a regular maintainence dose of a few ounces per 6 gallons and occasional heavy dose of one ounce per gallon we have 0 issues over time. This stuff really works and we give a bottle to every new customer. It is only available in a few places, we stock it here and send it all over the country. Again, we deal with this issue everyday as a marine dealer and as one of the largest MM dealerships in the Midwest, this has been the best additive we have found to combat this issue.

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ran into this site via la sportsman, thought id add it here

http://petelandrysrealgas.com/

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All refineries produce gasoline without ethanol ...... its an additive. And it is a poor substitute for gasoline. As of two months ago American Oil became the majority of our feed stocks and will continue to replace MORE EXPENSIVE oil from oversea countries.


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Gents, I hate the Ethanol more than most plus being old I have hated it since the beginning. What I do since there is no pure gas here is wash 93 E10. I made a rig to remove the Ethanol and after that I add some Stabil and mix 4 gals of washed stuff to 1 gallon of 100LL. I leave the 100LL out for the 2 stroke chainsaws and trimmers. My lawnmowers, generator, 1967 M37 Dodge, and my MM love the mix. And to the corn belt folks, leave my gas alone and make Whiskey instead!


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Gigafowl wrote:
craig wrote:
MaXXis85 wrote:
Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!


That's all I ran in my last engine! 100LL av gas mixed 50/50 with 93 octane kept the detonation down.



So why with all the mods DDM has run - has he insisted he just ran "regular" gas - is
he just kidding or not aware of the damage cheap / low octane fuel can do ???

To me that seems to be a big reason many modded motors go BOOM - the pre-TDC-detonation ???

If I was gonna mod an engine - I would do like you are and feed it the best fuel cause
these lil motors don't burn hardly any fuel compared to other big boy toys ! ! !
i ran it in my engine all last year, uncut. It's not something you notice right away, it's more of a preventative maintenance thing. Spark plugs were fine too.


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Gigafowl wrote:
craig wrote:
MaXXis85 wrote:
Aviation probably wont hurt a thing... Might help the valves with the lead in the fuel!


That's all I ran in my last engine! 100LL av gas mixed 50/50 with 93 octane kept the detonation down.



So why with all the mods DDM has run - has he insisted he just ran "regular" gas - is
he just kidding or not aware of the damage cheap / low octane fuel can do ???

To me that seems to be a big reason many modded motors go BOOM - the pre-TDC-detonation ???

If I was gonna mod an engine - I would do like you are and feed it the best fuel cause
these lil motors don't burn hardly any fuel compared to other big boy toys ! ! !
i ran it in my engine all last year, uncut. It's not something you notice right away, it's more of a preventative maintenance thing. Spark plugs were fine too.


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For any of you guys running Mod'd motors and need Hi-Octane fuel in Ascension Parish - Triple S (SSS) across from Holy Rosary Church on 429, has NON-ETHANOL 87, 89, & 91 Fuel. And, it's $0.10 cheaper per gallon if you pay Cash.


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just buy 100% gasoline....


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just buy 100% gasoline....
thats nice, but won't cut it for Mod'd motors...


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milunchbox wrote:
just buy 100% gasoline....
thats nice, but won't cut it for Mod'd motors...


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The Hairy Coot wrote:
milunchbox wrote:
just buy 100% gasoline....
thats nice, but won't cut it for Mod'd motors...


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But 87 89 or 91 without ethanol will


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The Hairy Coot wrote:
milunchbox wrote:
just buy 100% gasoline....
thats nice, but won't cut it for Mod'd motors...


Yes it will. 100 gasoline will solve all of the problems that ethanol brings. I run it in any small engine or older engine.


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milunchbox wrote:
The Hairy Coot wrote:
milunchbox wrote:
just buy 100% gasoline....
thats nice, but won't cut it for Mod'd motors...


Yes it will. 100 gasoline will solve all of the problems that ethanol brings. I run it in any small engine or older engine.
do you mean 100 LL for airplanes? If so, calling it 100% is far from accurate.

100LL (low lead) works great, just have to monitor spark plugs a little closer


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no i mean 100 % gasoline. we have it here in michigan. we also carry it at our gas stations. we have 89 and 91 octane.


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no i mean 100 % gasoline. we have it here in michigan. we also carry it at our gas stations. we have 89 and 91 octane.
thats what I'm saying - 87, even 89 octane with no ethanol (100% gas) can cause knocking (premature ignition) in modified motors.


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How do I ask questions


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How do I ask questions
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We'll I really don't know how to work this just yet but I want to ask questions about my carburetor on a copperhead


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We'll I really don't know how to work this just yet but I want to ask questions about my carburetor on a copperhead

go to engines & engine mod talk click new post at the top left and fill in the blanks with your question and that's it.

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I have found a few stations that sell no ethanol gas in 87 only. For my modded engine, I then add vp racing fuels octane booster which brings it it up to 95 octane. Runs great.

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use starbrite starton on every tank

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