It is currently Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:06 pm




Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
 Prodrive wiring harness 
Author Message
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am
Posts: 275
Location: Church Hill TN
Post Prodrive wiring harness
Hey can someone post up a pic or email me a wiring diagram for prodrive? My harness got caught around the trim unit and when I trimmed motor down it pulled some wires loose from the plug going to engine. I got it to run but now clutch won't engage and it won't turn off. I searched and found all the same problems on here but no wiring diagram. And pictures on the threads have been deleted.

Thanks for any help guys!

_________________
1854 UnlceJ with 36PD

Howdy wrote:
My boat would do faster than 12mph if i didn't have you and 2 other lardasses riding in it"


Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:29 pm
Profile
Online
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm
Posts: 4247
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
Attachment:
wiring 1.jpg

Attachment:
wiring 3.jpg


I recieved two drawings from Peck. It dependes on what year you have as to which one to follow. I had a wire short out and burnt some wires in my harness so I totally rewired my rig with a new waterproof connector.

Attachment:
IMG_2499.JPG


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
?? HP Kawasaki Powered PD pushing a 1748 beyond the laws of physics


Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:08 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:27 am
Posts: 275
Location: Church Hill TN
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
Thanks a bunch! I traced everything down yesterday. Turns out I had a wire pulled from the coil, PTO wire pulled out, 2 wires pulled from the plug and the 4ga wire terminal was broke at the starter. Where did you get that plug from? My factory one is dry rotten so I'm going to replace it just need to pick one up somewhere.

_________________
1854 UnlceJ with 36PD

Howdy wrote:
My boat would do faster than 12mph if i didn't have you and 2 other lardasses riding in it"


Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:55 am
Profile
Online
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm
Posts: 4247
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
Mine was dry rotted also. The main reason mine burnt was my 07' power wire to the switches was not fused. Well it is now, so when I added the fuse, I found this and decided to rewire the whole damn thing.

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/10783/10002/-1?parentProductId=

_________________
?? HP Kawasaki Powered PD pushing a 1748 beyond the laws of physics


Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:12 am
Profile
MMT Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 pm
Posts: 5
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
banded-mallard,
Man do you have a complete wiring diagram? My diodes are bad on my coils so I need to replace them while I am doing that I want to rewire everything with better/water tight connections. I have a lot of corroded connections and dry-rotted plastic connectors.

Does anyone know if I can fuse the coils to prevent diodes from going out? Would be nice to replace a fuse if the diodes go bad on the water again...

Thanks!


Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:29 am
Profile
Online
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm
Posts: 4247
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
If you look above, I have the two drawings from Prodrive. Actually I talked to Peck yesterday about mine with my Kawasaki project. I was told to cut the diode out of my control box because it wasn't needed and could be giving me trouble. But then again, mine was an 07' non-cdi. Not sure about your coils though.

_________________
?? HP Kawasaki Powered PD pushing a 1748 beyond the laws of physics


Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:34 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3832
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
b00tleg82 wrote:
banded-mallard,
Man do you have a complete wiring diagram? My diodes are bad on my coils so I need to replace them while I am doing that I want to rewire everything with better/water tight connections. I have a lot of corroded connections and dry-rotted plastic connectors.

Does anyone know if I can fuse the coils to prevent diodes from going out? Would be nice to replace a fuse if the diodes go bad on the water again...


Those wires connected to the coils kill the spark at the coils when the oil pressure sensor, key or kill switch connect to ground. If your diodes go bad on the water, you can disconnect by removing the cowling or try clipping the black wire going into the cowling to disconnect them . The motor will run without the diodes/wires connected to the coils, it just won't turn off. If you disconnect the grounds to the coils, you can turn it off by pulling the plug wires (wear a glove) or choke/smother the carb once you're back on the trailer.

Diodes going bad is a fairly common issue but shouldn't really be chronic. It may be the related to the condition/problems with the current wire harness you describe. I'd suggest getting a new wire harness installed and using dialectric grease on all the new connections. If you want, try extending the wires from the coils and add spade connectors outside of the cowling where you can get to them. Then you can disconnect them if you need to get back to the ramp. You can use a known good diode and make a jumper to switch one out if needed once its off the water.

MB has the full wire diagrams (including the Briggs wiring) in PDF's posted on the MB and BPS forums. I included a JPEG of it below since they won't let me attach a PDF file.

TIP: Its a good idea to print out the wire diagram along with the ones posted above and keep in a Ziploc with a length of wire in your boat. This can help you bypass a failed switch etc... to get you off the water in a pinch.

Image

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:23 am
Profile
MMT Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 pm
Posts: 5
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
deadbird8 wrote:
b00tleg82 wrote:
banded-mallard,
Man do you have a complete wiring diagram? My diodes are bad on my coils so I need to replace them while I am doing that I want to rewire everything with better/water tight connections. I have a lot of corroded connections and dry-rotted plastic connectors.

Does anyone know if I can fuse the coils to prevent diodes from going out? Would be nice to replace a fuse if the diodes go bad on the water again...


Those wires connected to the coils kill the spark at the coils when the oil pressure sensor, key or kill switch connect to ground. If your diodes go bad on the water, you can disconnect by removing the cowling or try clipping the black wire going into the cowling to disconnect them . The motor will run without the diodes/wires connected to the coils, it just won't turn off. If you disconnect the grounds to the coils, you can turn it off by pulling the plug wires (wear a glove) or choke/smother the carb once you're back on the trailer.

Diodes going bad is a fairly common issue but shouldn't really be chronic. It may be the related to the condition/problems with the current wire harness you describe. I'd suggest getting a new wire harness installed and using dialectric grease on all the new connections. If you want, try extending the wires from the coils and add spade connectors outside of the cowling where you can get to them. Then you can disconnect them if you need to get back to the ramp. You can use a known good diode and make a jumper to switch one out if needed once its off the water.

MB has the full wire diagrams (including the Briggs wiring) in PDF's posted on the MB and BPS forums. I included a JPEG of it below since they won't let me attach a PDF file.

TIP: Its a good idea to print out the wire diagram along with the ones posted above and keep in a Ziploc with a length of wire in your boat. This can help you bypass a failed switch etc... to get you off the water in a pinch.

Image


Thanks for this! Making spare diode jumpers is a genius! I looked on the BPS forum in the diy section found the post for the diagrams but could not get access to the PDF, not sure why. You have just bailed me out big time I owe you a beer sometime deadbird8!

Also my wife is going to print the diagram and laminate it for boat storage. Anyone intested let me know I can get a few more made up.


Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:31 am
Profile
MMT Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 pm
Posts: 5
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
banded-mallard wrote:
If you look above, I have the two drawings from Prodrive. Actually I talked to Peck yesterday about mine with my Kawasaki project. I was told to cut the diode out of my control box because it wasn't needed and could be giving me trouble. But then again, mine was an 07' non-cdi. Not sure about your coils though.


Mine is an 08 non cdi. Can anyone explain in redneck terms what the purpose on the diodes are?


Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:34 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:54 pm
Posts: 156
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
In general terms...Diodes allow flow of electricity in one direction only and stop it in the opposite direction. Coils create large voltage spikes that can cause damage to other components in their circuit. Install a diode and it will stop that spike and protect the component.

1756 Phowler 36PD


Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:09 pm
Profile
MMT Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 pm
Posts: 5
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
Got it thanks!


Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:32 pm
Profile
Online
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm
Posts: 4247
Post Re: Prodrive wiring harness
wisconsin phowler wrote:
In general terms...Diodes allow flow of electricity in one direction only and stop it in the opposite direction. Coils create large voltage spikes that can cause damage to other components in their circuit. Install a diode and it will stop that spike and protect the component.

1756 Phowler 36PD


Recently I had an issue with my fuse blowing. I thought it was my clutch going to ground and going out. After extensive checks and a talk with Peck and Kp, I cut the diode out and all it well. Mine is an 07'. I'm not sure if the new models even have that diode in the control box or not. So if you have 08' non-cdi, you could remove the diode in the control box with no issues, according to PD.

_________________
?? HP Kawasaki Powered PD pushing a 1748 beyond the laws of physics


Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:48 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 12 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dynastar12, ronbow, Wollinsky817 and 53 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: