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koonce727
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 106 Location: Mergens Point, WI
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 Boring
Does anyone make pistons if you were to punch out thirty thousandths or do they just make them up to twenty? Was told you can get twenty thousandths but not thirty, is this true? Been doing some searching as to where to even get the twenty thousandths but cant seem to even find that. anyone help point me in the right direction.
Is boring out that much a bad idea on an already modded motor, or just a 35 briggs in general
Im running a pro-drive with mag 45 internals, IM heads, exhaust and mikuni right now.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:54 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
Briggs makes .020 stock pistons. There's a reason for that you're dealing with a shitty block to begin with. Theres other ways of building compression that's much safer than that.
I'm no expert but other s will agree with me.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:05 pm |
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koonce727
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 106 Location: Mergens Point, WI
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 Re: Boring
Reason I ask is I have some scoring on one of the cylinder walls, trying to weigh my options of boring it out to clean it up vs a new block.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:27 pm |
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Riverrats1
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:25 pm Posts: 61
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 Re: Boring
what kind of speeds are you getting? what boat are you running?
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:39 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
New block if you're .020 already.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:40 pm |
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koonce727
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 106 Location: Mergens Point, WI
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 Re: Boring
Still at stock bore, running an 1854 pd full floation a sides and what not with basically every add on so she's heavy to say the least, running about 28mph at 4250 to 4300 light load, boat use to run 31 all day bumping 32. Been running 28 now for a few years, I thought it was the valves until we opened it up.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:52 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
Prop....maybe
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:54 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Boring
You can get pistons just about whatever size you want.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:51 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
Would you do..030???
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:55 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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I would if i had to, i'd try .020 before ordering pistons and see if that cleaned the cylinders up enough. Briggs gives a specific tolerance for theirs and you don't need to physically have the pistons before doing the work. If that don't clean it up, look into some other options. My machine shop guy would not charge me twice though if .020 wasnt going to work.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:58 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Boring
Heck I ain't scared, I'll go .080
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Boring
I wouldn't go boring anything until u have the pistons in ur hand and u can go .080
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:29 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Boring
They give no skirt clearance numbers. You bore to a specific diameter. If you talk to a dealer or rep, they'll actually tell you not to give the machine shop the pistons. I'm not any kind of guru, but i do know the machine shop wants the pistons and wants the skirt clearance numbers. I've not had an issue just giving them a bore diameter though and have had more than one engine bored out.
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| Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:32 pm |
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koonce727
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 106 Location: Mergens Point, WI
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 Re: Boring
Can you guys point me to where I could get .030 if the .020 doesn't work? I still can't find anything on the web
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Bulleye
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Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:41 pm Posts: 44
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 Re: Boring
J.E. pistons will make custom pistons.
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| Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:09 am |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
Wouldn't it be about the same price to get a new block than getting it bored and getting custom pistons made?
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| Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:16 am |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Boring
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Boring
Boring u looking at 50$ a cylinder resleeving about a 150$ a cylinder and that's on the high side
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Boring
What about custom pistons?
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| Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:48 am |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Boring
Custom pistons are a little on the high side. I would contact performance v twins. He's a little hard to get ahold of, but is probably going to be your best bet, unless you know exactly what you need. Pin height, etc..
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Boring
Custom pistons aren't as bad as u would think but some of the company's want u to buy 4 not just 2
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Boring
Also when ordering custom pistons let them know there for an air cooled engine. Some piston manufactures will require additional clearance (.001).
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| Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:33 pm |
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koonce727
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 106 Location: Mergens Point, WI
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 Re: Boring
Appreciate the help fellas, AKA cant thank you enough for your time.
Culprit turned out to being a compression ring failed.
Let the boring begin, hoping .020 cleans it up.
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