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DeezNuts
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 Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
So I spoke to Al last week and he seems like a real stand up guy. I told him what I wanted to get out of my GTR and he recommended his 45 kit which consists of this.
PVT BB piston/rod set PVT BB cam/lifter set PVT roller rocker set PVT BB pushrod set w/shims PVT Manley Race Master valve set
My question is...Is there anyone in the Orlando area who knows what they are doing and can do this rebuild for me? I won't be getting the parts until after Christmas.
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Its not that really hard to do it yourself or if you have a buddy that knows their way around a motor. These engines are pretty simple.
I'd advise that you have your heads done while you have them off for the valve and shim install.
Also, if you have CDI coils, get the high rev 4700 RPM set. And depending on what you have now, you need to upgrade your governor spring (like the MB 45 spring) to allow higher RPM operation. While you have the case cover off, you may also install the stud/sleeve kit from BoatDr. BoatDr could sell you all of the upgrade parts and headwork as well.
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BassmasterCia
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Just out of curiosity did he quote you a price for all that?
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Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:42 am |
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DeezNuts
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Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:32 pm Posts: 67
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
@deadbird...Thanks for the info. I have a 2013 so I believe I will be ok with the CDI coils. He is also going to port and polish for me.
@bassmastercia...here is what he quoted me on for the 45 Kit:
The kit is as follows: PVT BB piston/rod set............................$495.00 PVT BB cam/lifter set.............................$235.00 PVT roller rocker set...............................$325.00 PVT BB pushrod set w/shims.................$70.00 PVT Manley Race Master valve set.........$140.00 Pro Flow Port & Polish............................$250
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crawfish
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:39 pm Posts: 118 Location: west coast north central fl
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Talk to Sid at fast duck motors he knows his way around em pretty good.
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Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:38 pm |
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Got Dux
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
I sent my powerhead to Al a couple of years ago. He is the real deal. He did a great job on mine.
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deadbird8
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BassmasterCia
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
im just going off of info I read on here so somebody correct me if I'm wrong. I believe PVT builds compression with their Pistons, not by decking. Decking changes the angle of the pushrods a little and changes the "valve train geometry" slightly. Whatever that means.
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:19 pm |
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DeezNuts
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:10 pm |
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deadbird8
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BassmasterCia
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Like I said before im just going on what I've read on here. But doesn't pvt build race cart engines that may well turn 7-8 grand for short periods of time? just trying to figure out why one builder won't deck, and all the others do...?
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
He will deck them if that is what you want. I know quite a few people who've had their heads decked at PVT. He prefers to build compression with pistons/rods, which I would prefer too, but it's a lot more expensive to do it that way. The heads are going to be worked anyway, decking only adds 100 bucks or so, pistons/rods is usually over 500 bucks. Both accomplish higher compression, pistons do it with more quench area which should yield a better performing motor. 4-500 dollars better is up to you. Everyone has their own way of doing things. You talk to as many as you can and do what you think is best.
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Richard in LA
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deadbird8
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chevy01
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Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:44 pm Posts: 105 Location: orlando fl
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
where in orlando are you located you can do the work your self i have rebuilt a couple of these motors there pretty simple if you need a hand let me know
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:11 am |
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DeezNuts
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
@deadbird- Man, thank you so much for the info. It really put things into perspective for me. Great info. I'm not sure if I'm getting flat top pistons. I think it would be wise for me to find out.
@chevy01- I'm live in SW Orlando., Dr Phillips area. You guys are tempting me to crack this joker open myself. Is this a one day job or a few days?
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:30 am |
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chevy01
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Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:44 pm Posts: 105 Location: orlando fl
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
it would only be a one day job im a technician for ford so if you need a hand i have all the tools im rebuilding a 23 kohlor in my garage right now and about to tear the heads off my 35 mb to send to the boat dr. i live in orlando
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:00 pm |
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DeezNuts
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Nice. I will be giving you a call when the parts arrive. Thanks.
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Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:17 am |
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deadbird8
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DeezNuts
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chevy01
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
That's where I'm at I'm taking mine apart this coming Friday to send my heads off so I won't have a boat for a week or so but my buddy has his new rig now so I will be able to hunt still
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chevy01
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
More than welcome to hit me up any time we are always riding some where. St. John's or cypress
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DeezNuts
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chevy01
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Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:44 pm Posts: 105 Location: orlando fl
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Oh yea we have been hunting every weekend. Been trying to find a decent wood duck hole but no luck so far
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DeezNuts
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chevy01
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deadbird8
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
I'd advise to get rid of the debris screen on the front when you put it back together.
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chevy01
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
I seen the 2014s don't have it. Why is that better airflow?
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:40 pm |
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cb5331
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CZECHHOME
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
I sent my motor to him and he did a great job . I had the 45 kit put on . Ran 22 before and 31-32 after.
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:06 pm |
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deadbird8
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chevy01
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awesome thanks for the info
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:53 pm |
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DeezNuts
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jerimiahw
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
I would leave stock pushrods just a suggestion seen lots of torn up heads . Shit happens I'd rather bend a pushrods than crack a head.
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:36 pm |
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chevy01
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Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:44 pm Posts: 105 Location: orlando fl
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
You think it's possible to make these Pistons fit lol
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:42 pm |
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DeezNuts
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 Re: Perf V Twins: Al Hodge
Good luck with that. Lol.
BTW, we are hunting on Thursday. You're more than welcome to join us.
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chevy01
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Sounds good I will hit you up this week
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