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Booner03
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:10 pm Posts: 79
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 Heavy load question
I run a 1754 excel f4 shallow water with a MB HD 42 Black Death. This was my first year running a SD rig and i am still learning a lot. On one hut this year i had 5 people, a dog, three dozen decs, three mojos, blind, blind bags, and guns and i really had no expectations of getting to my spot fast but only could go a little more then ideal without bogging down. Is this normal or should i look into y i was not able to get up and go?
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:32 pm |
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Bug
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 1068 Location: Tallahassee, Fl
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 Re: Heavy load question
Booner, the only way your gonna get anywhere any faster with that kinda load is more power. If that's the norm for ya get the heads worked at the very least.
_________________ PRODRIVE 1860 CC "Let the good times roll" Luck??? The bassards don't stand a chance!
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:41 pm |
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jc
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:19 pm Posts: 1103
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 Re: Heavy load question
To run that load you need a bigger boat and a stage 2. Thats a hell of a load.
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:29 pm |
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TGunn
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:39 pm Posts: 764
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 Re: Heavy load question
You'll plane out better if you get some more MOJOs.
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:47 pm |
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GDSArgo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:39 pm Posts: 341 Location: Houston Delaware
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 Re: Heavy load question
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JD145
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm Posts: 1289 Location: SWGA
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:59 pm |
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Bug
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 1068 Location: Tallahassee, Fl
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 Re: Heavy load question
Make one o' those turds buy a boat is really the best advice we could give here 
_________________ PRODRIVE 1860 CC "Let the good times roll" Luck??? The bassards don't stand a chance!
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:02 pm |
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stopthetalk
MMT Addict
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:21 pm Posts: 677
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 Re: Heavy load question
Dual Engines!! 
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:03 pm |
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DENNYEDWARDS
MMT Addict
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:50 pm Posts: 574 Location: Muscatine, Iowa
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 Re: Heavy load question
May want to regear your drive if you run heavy all the time. Something like 32 upper and 52 lower might keep engine from bogging.
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:16 pm |
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CJB
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:46 am Posts: 5216 Location: Across the Bayou, LA
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:23 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Heavy load question
If you want to haul a heavy load get a GTR. If you want to swallow a heavy load keep tat MB..lol
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:24 pm |
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forever draggin
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 6664 Location: in the marsh with a boat load full of dead hookers
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 Re: Heavy load question
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:30 pm |
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270Handiman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Heavy load question
Ran that same load minus the dog and decoys in an old 1754 excel (2004 model) with a 45 mag. (250, 235, 210, 165, and 130 ish). Ran fine and got on plane with no struggle, but it didn't exactly hop up in a boat length. 19-20 mph (actual GPS speed). Can't imagine trying it in that boat with less power.
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:43 pm |
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Booner03
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:10 pm Posts: 79
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 Re: Heavy load question
My normal load is 2-3 guys and gear and I'm getting 24ish . I run about 28-29 empty in deep water. I just was making sure it was supposed to bog down with that kind of load
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:05 pm |
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zborden25
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:46 pm Posts: 183 Location: st bernard louisiana
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 Re: Heavy load question
yea well a 45 mag and a 4200 bd don't exactly compare. that's a whole nother machine
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| Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:33 pm |
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270Handiman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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 Re: Heavy load question
Just read through some of the mod threads on here, and look into getting your heads done. You've got a carb and exhaust, so some headwork should really show some nice gains.
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| Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:56 am |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Heavy load question
In my old Excel (1754 HD, exhaust, without headwork) with 270, his dad, my corn-fed friend, and dog with the butt you can see from space - we couldn't even get on plane with hunting load. Headwork made a big difference on that motor.
In my 1851F4 w/ 5500 and 5 people I can run 28. The extra foot makes a big difference and load distribution is important in the Excel boat when you load it up. You overloaded your boat with 5 and hunting load.
As recommended- have your heads done, if they are stock they're probably leaking anyway (robbing power). If you need more, then go with a cam.
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Booner03
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:10 pm Posts: 79
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 Re: Heavy load question
looks like i will be getting some work done. Next question is, do you guys think that the more preformace upgrades you do the more likely you take more chances of blowing the motor early in its life?
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mikecatt13
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:40 pm Posts: 370 Location: SE Michigan
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 Re: Heavy load question
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Ducaholic
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 1014 Location: Avoyelles Parish
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