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Author:  cc1790 [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:26 pm ]
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Looking to get more power and speed to carry a load on my 2060 Phowler. Currently have twin 36 prodrives Gen 3, stock engines with carb . Looking at one of three options, looking for opinions / advice and what you would do:

Option 1: Put new 40hp EFI power heads on - Probably about $8k total, get 3 year warranty?

Option 2: Do motor mods (need input on which ones and what cost would be)?

Option 3: Sell mud motors and put on 90hp outboard with jackplate?

Thoughts?

Author:  brycecheramie [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:38 pm ]
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Well, what do you do with the boat?

I think you'd be in good shape with new power heads and new lower unit with the better gear ratio

But i'd also like the outboard route
that's a big boat

Author:  cc1790 [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:36 pm ]
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Author:  Will [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:11 pm ]
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Option 1 makes the most sense for cost, efficiency, simplicity, resale, warranty, etc. Plus, you can run a higher rpm to help speed with the Gen 3. ECU can be flashed to spin on up. They have a lot more torque than what you have now. Don't get hung up on it only being 4 more hp on paper. The 40 gains a lot more on the power curve.

Option 2 question, would you do the work or need someone else to do it? Could get more power than option one but no warranty and potential issues and limited to 4750 rpm on the coils.

Option 3 If you don't need a surface drive, could be an option but you're rigged for duals, factor in steering, throttle and controls modifications to swap. Could cost the most, I would go on up to a 115 if taking that route.

Option 4 wait a little longer, sell it and get a new Prodrive with duals that have FPR and instant reverse.

Author:  brycecheramie [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:22 am ]
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Author:  fishaholic82 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:50 am ]
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I would personally modify what you currently have. Heads, cam, exhaust, and a Mikuni would wake those engines up and also be the cheapest option.

Author:  banded-mallard [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am ]
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x2

Heads - depending on what you have and want are about $600 or so
Cam - about $300 - $350
Minuki setup or depending on what you have and want.

replacing the power head is going to do very very little with a gen 3 lower. Its just geared to low. Now load carrying capacity is a different story. Dual PD gen 3 lowers with heads and cam could haul whatever that boat can hold without sinking. Here is a very old pic from when I had my Briggs before kawi swap. Gen 2 lower which gen 3 will tote better load.

6 boxes of siding, 2x6's, compressor, generator, ladders, fuel, small ice chest, large ice chest, clothes for weekend of work. This boat was 19'8" x 48" bottom. heads, cam exhaust, mikuni would get up and run low mid 20's with that load. Oh and 2 grown guys. So your hull isn't much longer, will be wider thus draft less water and add another engine. No brainer, modify what you have.


Author:  cc1790 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:08 pm ]
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Author:  cc1790 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:09 pm ]
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Author:  Will [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:31 pm ]
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Author:  cc1790 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:41 pm ]
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Author:  fishaholic82 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:21 pm ]
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Author:  fishaholic82 [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:22 pm ]
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Forgot to add that the new 40 hp efi engines are around $4,300 last I checked.

Author:  JBsuperG [ Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:26 pm ]
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OP could probably recoup some by selling is stock power heads if he goes to the 40.

Author:  banded-mallard [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:08 am ]
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The only problem with trying to sell his current power heads is the market sucks for them right now due to so many 40 swaps. If its about money and he's machanically inclined, then mod current setup. If money is not limiting factor, then go 40's. Check out the classifieds and see haw many older CDI non-efi power heads are still hanging around.

Author:  Wchauvin [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:47 am ]
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Is that picture at the launch by hanko in the intracoastal?

Author:  banded-mallard [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:05 am ]
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yep from oh shit like 2009. That was a barge of a boat my buddy had that I threw my PD on after the briggs mods. Then I built my current 17'6" x48"

Author:  cb5331 [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:24 am ]
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Author:  JIMMY W [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:58 am ]
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Author:  banded-mallard [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:12 pm ]
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Author:  JBsuperG [ Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:48 pm ]
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