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jwz4
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:45 am Posts: 60 Location: Starkville, MS
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 Length vs Width
After reading on these forums for a while it seems that most people say that length of the boat is more important for the preformance of a surface drive motor than the width. I've been looking for a boat for my 23 GD SD and was reading on go devils web site when I came across this "Surface Drive Boats are designed with maximum bottom surface area which creates more hydrostatic lift on the hull and thus allows the surface drive engines to perform at their best." Wouldn't a wider boat give more "bottom surface area" therefor helping the motor preform better? Or am I just confused 
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:33 am |
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dpd
MMT Addict
Joined: Thu May 07, 2009 10:25 am Posts: 714 Location: Thibodaux, LA
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 Re: Length vs Width
It depends on what you plan on using it for and where you will use it.
If you already own a GDSD I would call Go-Devil and talk to Warren Coco himself. That man does know his boats and motors and will talk to you until you can't stand it any more. He will tell you what you need and what you should do. Before you call you need to be able to answer some questions. We know you have a GDSD23 and are looking for a boat.
1. What will you use this boat for? 2 what will you put in your boat? 3 How much people and gear do you really plan on hauling? 4 Where do you plan to go? marsh? Timber? Open water? Deep water? How far? 1/2 mile? 20 miles? 5 Do you fish? Hunt? Trap? whatever
Think up every possible scenario you can come up with and tell him. And be realistic and don't sugar coat the truth on what your plans are.
_________________ 16 x 48 Blanchard Bateau / 40 PD FPR Eat,Sleep, Fish, Hunt. Repeat.
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phowler
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:20 pm Posts: 203 Location: Flyover country
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 Re: Length vs Width
My wife tells me that width is far more important than length which is a good thing because my,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh,,,,,,uh,,,,,,,,nevermind  .
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:36 am |
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jwz4
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:45 am Posts: 60 Location: Starkville, MS
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 Re: Length vs Width
I had a feeling this might go south fast 
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:08 pm |
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The Shafer
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:46 pm Posts: 1947 Location: Longview. TX
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 Re: Length vs Width
i agree with dpd. CALL WARREN!!! He is a super cool dude that really knows what he is talking about. He will be able to tell you what will perform the best with your motor... Tell him Shafer sent ya! 
_________________ WC 1848 Bateau w/ 36 PD FPR
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:22 pm |
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Geaux
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:21 pm Posts: 11
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 Re: Length vs Width
Width is good....but length will help you balance your boat. A balanced boat will ride higher when on step.
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:53 pm |
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Gigafowl
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: Length vs Width
The surface drive boats have a tapered chine - which creates more lift than the round chine - however with enough horsepower comes enough speed for excelent performance in the round chine design too....
The best performance with the 23 GDSD which I have seen is on the 18ft Go Devil Duck Skiff - their narrowest version...
Sam III - has one with 23 GDSD and some pics of it are in the Wallisville threads...
_________________ Eat - Sleep - Hunt ! ! !
"It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end."
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:31 pm |
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coondik
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length vs. girth = ....
forget it...
it will neva be!
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:00 pm |
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willett
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Length vs Width
depends on the chines of the boat
Square chines have a true width bottom such as 48 bottom on a square chine...whereas round chines may have a 48" flat peice across the bottom but technically you're anywhere from 2-6" wider due to the rounded peice of metal for the chine
Or it could be measured from where the round chine actual starts up the side (at the and of the arc) so if you have a 50" wide bottom you may technically only have a 42-46" wide bottom then calculate the extra 2-4" on both sides to equal 50" total
Hope that makes sense I know what I'm tryin to say much easier to show than explain in words
So Yes surface area makes the most difference but if you have a 2-6" arch at either side of that flat peice you're gonna sit lower in the water no matter what
FLAT Surface area = how much draft/freeboard the boat has Length = more of load carrying abilities
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muddy
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:14 pm Posts: 180 Location: Patterson
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:16 pm |
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robertb4wd
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 1501 Location: Bridge City, Texas
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 Re: Length vs Width
Call Warren Coco. He suggested my boat and nailed it. It works great. Remember, he's been in the business for years...
_________________ 1754 Gatortail Extreme / 35 GTR
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Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:36 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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