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| Author: | KJH [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My needs... which boat? |
I'm going to get a new boat to put with my stock 35GTR... the problem is I can't figure out which one to get. Hopefully you can help and make a recommendation. Here are my needs/desires. • 17 or 18 ft. Prefer 18 ft • 54 inches wide • 20” transom • Minimum 24” sides. 26-28" preferred. • Modified “v” front to cut the rough water and waves. • Flat bottom (no ribs/runners) • Tapered chine • Floatation in the floor and sides • 24 inch front platform (or none at all). The shorter the better. • Full floor • .100 aluminum • All welded • No benches • Level across the gunnels from bow to stern As open of floor plan as possible (very important!!!). I routinely break up to 3 inches of ice with the boat. It is not uncommon for me to run very rough water with 2-3 foot swells. I want the boat to be a light as it can be (no extras as they weigh too much). I haul a lot of stuff and a ton of weight. I hate boats with a front deck platform, as it just takes up usable space. It will have a soft sided PopUp blind on it during the hunting season. I do not run stumps or veggies, just shallow water with sand and some catails. I really like the bow deck style of the Beavertail boats, and the transom type of the new Excel F4. Any ideas? My guess is that I'm stuck with having a boat built for me. |
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| Author: | Barroll [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Having a boat built for you would be the best way to get exactly what you want but i dont know if any builders will build you a mod-v hull. From your description you pretty much described an excel but they dont offer many custom options. I believe that bevertail are flat bottom boats, not actually a mod-v, but i may be wrong. |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Call the guys at Gator-Tail that's pretty much my boat you described minus the V I have flotation in my hunt deck & 2 rear pods which I sit on...Also flotation in the bow. I fish West Bay and 2-3' waves are not uncommon she handles the waves great at 60... I can put 2 people on my bow so if your thinking about poling or fishing from your boat look into an 1860 I love mine. |
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| Author: | KJH [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Thanks. It does sound like an Excel... but the platform up front takes up too much room. I have been planning on getting the F4 but I'm rethinking it now because of the front platform size. The front platform is just wasted space for me as I won't be poling or anything like that and is why the Beavertail boats without platforms are attractive to me. |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
If you take a look at mine everything is removable in under 30 seconds... My large ice chest (120Q Yetti) doubles as my casting platform / gigging platform during the summer & fall months |
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| Author: | KJH [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
WestEndAngler, Can you remove the platform up on the bow? |
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| Author: | autogateman [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
I would consider going heavier than .100 thick, especially if you breakin ice with it. |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:56 am ] |
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| Author: | KJH [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
I hear what you're saying about the ice... something to consider for sure. |
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| Author: | KJH [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
WEA_ I'm talking about the platform up on the bow area or your boat where the trolling motor is located. It looks like your is about 3-4ft from the tip of the bow back. Can that be removed? |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
If you ever get that sucker stuck, its gunna be stuck like you aint seen latley! A mod-v will also hurt your shallow water performance. |
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| Author: | KJH [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
What do you mean about getting it stuck? I can live with a little less shallow water performance. As long as I can run in 12-15 inches of water, I'll be happy. |
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| Author: | Robn1020 [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
| Author: | Woodiebuster [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
he says "some cattails" Sounds like he needs a 60 outboard, a jackplate, and some balls. A stock 35 will be a turd with heavy loads like you are sayin, you would need mods or duals. |
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| Author: | KJH [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
A jet doesn't work... been there, it was a $5000 mistake. Way too much sand. A longtail didn't work for me either as a 5+ mile ride was slow and a pain to drive. Outboards work, but I'm limited to where I can go. I agree, an outboard sounds best but I've done that twice and and it gets too shallow even with a jackplate. With the outboard I have to worry about hitting something. That was an expensive mistake too. I use a surface drive mud motor so that I can run when it gets shallow. It goes from deep water to a few inches where I run. I've been using a 35GTR on a 1754 Excel with 24" sides since 2007 and it always gets me where I'm going with no worries. I don't have to worry about hitting something and ruining my lower unit. I've been happy with the combination of attributes I get with the mud motor. I've just been looking for a different boat where I can have more room and haul more stuff. I'm out of room with 8 dozen duck floaters, 4 dozen goose floaters, a bag of 6 dozen goose sihlouettes, a dog, three guys, blind bags, blind, stove, heaters, etc. I went to pulling a trailer boat and it works OK, but its a pain. I agree it isn't fast with that load, but I can always get where I'm going via the shortest route. I love my motor, I just need to get more useable space in the boat. |
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| Author: | Barroll [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:21 am ] |
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| Author: | marshstomper [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:01 pm ] |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Call Gator-Tail and talk to dem bout an 18'x54" with out the extended front deck. They can also build one with a mod v in the bow fading to a flat bottom. |
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| Author: | austinabear [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Southfork makes an excellent boat and they make them exactly what you're talking about. southforkboats.com |
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| Author: | KJH [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
I'll check it out. Thank you. |
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| Author: | saveontaxes [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: My needs... which boat? |
Look at a G3 Just sold my 1756 wof, they have an 1860 w/ 24" sides, or 1966 w/ 28" sides, WOF wide open floorplan, under outfitter jon's on there website, may be what you are looking for. Dealer over at I-29 & hwy 2 |
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