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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Another skiff vs bateau
Well, I will be gettin a boat a built in the next year or so for my LT then upgrading to a tall transom PD later.
I am pretty set on a 17x42 but a skiff or a bateau? I run in the woods alot of the time and I think the skiff will split the brush a lot better than a pointed bow, I also like a skiff because you don't loose so much length in the rake like a bateau.
I grew up around flat bottoms and just want to try something different this go around, everybody says the skiffs don't do well in chop but I will cross borderline white caps and boat wakes a good bit of the time too, if there is a learing curve to doing it I can handle it.
I've also noticed some skiffs look different in the rake than others (like a Breaux and Acuion) is there anything behind that other than preference?
Are there any other pro's or con's I am missin?
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:49 pm |
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tchredneck
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:39 pm Posts: 1812 Location: in the woods,la
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
_________________ 27 Contender twin 200's for sale 18x42 B.B skiff Lil daddy 36 pd Fighting da Koolaid brigade since 07'
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bobbyjober
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 546 Location: St. Martinville, La
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
Swamp skiff like brother breaux has a lower rake, the higher rake seems it would take a bow wave better without wanting to dive into the wave. the flatter rake skiff does take experience, especially crossing waves, the nose wants to dive , load correct and learn the feel of the boat, you will be ok. I only have used the flatter rake skiff and it planes a load out really well with a 40 merc. with 13 pitch prop, 1742 skiff with 1,000 lbs gets on plane really well.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:20 pm |
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tchredneck
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:39 pm Posts: 1812 Location: in the woods,la
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
_________________ 27 Contender twin 200's for sale 18x42 B.B skiff Lil daddy 36 pd Fighting da Koolaid brigade since 07'
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:30 pm |
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
If u r experienced n a boat, u will learn a skiff easy. U might get thrown on the floor a time r 2, but that's how u learn. As far as rake, down here u will c as many different skiffs as u could imagine.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:50 pm |
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bobbyjober
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 546 Location: St. Martinville, La
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
Yep I just explained it wrong. more outward rake makes boat more stabile. The boat will have more reserve buoyancy to better right itself.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:04 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
"Reverse Buoyancy" Is that another word for sinking?
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:09 pm |
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bobbyjober
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 546 Location: St. Martinville, La
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
I gots a Mudbuddy no reverse anything here.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:14 pm |
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Tenpoint
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
_________________ 19x48 Rink/Aucoin Bateau w/35 GTR 20x60 Home-made skiff w/200 Merc
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:27 pm |
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garrettpearce
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
I have a 18x44 skiff I'll sale
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:33 pm |
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bobbyjober
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 546 Location: St. Martinville, La
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
negative buoyancy = reverse buoyancy. reverse sounds better though.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:42 pm |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:12 pm |
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Sko
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Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:41 am Posts: 769
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 Another skiff vs bateau
Skiffs in the thick stuff are the sh*t. It depends how much rake you put . We call a skiff with no rake a plunger. Make sure you don't get one like that, it will throw you out eventually
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:15 pm |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:32 am |
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bobbyjober
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 546 Location: St. Martinville, La
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 Re: Another skiff vs bateau
With the sides angled out more there is more buoyancy pushing against it to keep vessel more upright, compared to straight sides. Higher sides in either application would help "load carrying". The skiff with angled sides will carry more load because of the fact buoyancy is pushing against more surface area. Anyone that has drove a skiff with straight up sides and turned hard knows what i mean, on step on the side. Thats not a good feeling , let me told you. I believe that some skiffs sacrifice angle of sides for bottom width in order to maneuver through trees better and still carry a load. Next step is to break out the Stability formulas and get everyone confused.
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Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:29 pm |
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