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3/16 boat/bateau and a modded 36?
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Author:  willett [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:39 am ]
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Anyone run a 3/16 boat/bateau and a stage 1 PD 36?

I know Poker1 runs a 3/16 charles leonard with stock 36 what you seein poker?

anyone else?
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:35 pm ]
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Only a 3/16 bottom. I see absolutely no reason to have 3/16 anywhere else. New prop empty can hit 28 deep.
Author:  JBREAUX [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:57 pm ]
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Author:  basinhunter [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:31 pm ]
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I have a 3/16 bottom on my skiff and I'm running 30, stock motor.
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:08 pm ]
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Author:  Brinkleydog [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:09 pm ]
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Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:46 pm ]
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Mine is .100 gauge all around next one will be 1/8 bottom. After seven years of running it it's starting to show wear, I only ran 34.6 this weekend with a moderate load. LOL
Author:  tchredneck [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:49 pm ]
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i said this before and say it again, if 1/8 boat is built RIGHT! and braced correctly there is no need for that extra weight of a 3/16 bottom
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:56 pm ]
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Author:  tchredneck [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:59 pm ]
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and think of it this way too

take a one 3in piece of 1/8 try to bend it

now take a 3/16 peice about 8 in long and try to bend it, which one bends easier.

and aluminum is soft metal, make it to hard and to thick. will result in horrible effect if you stress that hull
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:02 pm ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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Whos talking about cracks?
Author:  tchredneck [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:10 pm ]
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Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:20 pm ]
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Author:  Mitschke [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:34 pm ]
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Author:  tchredneck [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:35 pm ]
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all things made that take abuse or any kinda force needs to be able to move but move the right way, basic engineering.

make metal to stiff it cracks, to soft it bends yadaydaydaydayyadaa.

like big sky scrapers they move and give more than you think. same applies for these bath tubs we have that we call boats
Author:  Mitschke [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:42 pm ]
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I'm not saying your wrong. I am just asking you to clarify how that can happen. By adding more braces? Nothing will give you more longevity than a well contructed whatever. But we are talking hooks. Hitting objects will still cause damage. Can you offset that by having a 1/8 or lessor bottom better supported by more properly placed bracing? Probably but you just added the weight your trying to save with every extra brace. I don't claim to know what that answer is other than longatudinal=good and cross bracing=bad. What the perfect formula is is anyones guess. Especially with folks talking about possibly getting bad material that was softer than it should have been. From what Ive seen IMO a properly built 3/16 bottom is tougher than a properly built 1/8 bottom which is tougher than a properly built .100 ga bottom. Everything is relative. I'm not saying 3/16 will make up for not having a well built rig to begin with but with all things being equal it is stronger and resist hooking better IMO. Maybe DDM has something with the flexing. I don't know. Its probably like eveything else in life. If you bought 10 identical trucks chances are that 1 will have more problems than the others.
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:46 pm ]
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Hey Mitsy, Your right about the flex but what happens when something smacks an airplane wing. Bad.......... :lol:
Author:  Mitschke [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:51 pm ]
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Author:  Mitschke [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:52 pm ]
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Oh... forgot to mention.

It landed in the hudson river.....
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:56 pm ]
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Hey that mofo is a true hero for making that chit happen and not killing everyone. One kool cat for sure. Bet he runs a PD too. :lol:
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:06 pm ]
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Author:  JBREAUX [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:13 pm ]
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Author:  Brinkleydog [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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What they make airboats out of?

Like poker said. if you want to prevent the bottom from "washerboarding" u need thick metal not more braces for it to form out of.

go to godevil web page and my hull is made out of what they use on the inside....they use a different metal on the hull.....think that is what our proble. is.....we got boat builders who got there material mixed up.


F it I'm going to buy a nother tracker and get factory warranty......and a outboard.... :mrgreen:
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:31 pm ]
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I was worried for a minute. :lol: I will be curious as to how the UHMV works out in the long haul. In my non-FE mind a 100 or 125 bottom with 1/4 or thicker UHMV (properly braced of course :mrgreen: ) would still be flexible and at the same time stiff enough to want to retain its shape and resist hooks sort of like a glass or polymer type hull.
Author:  basinhunter [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:53 am ]
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We got us some boat FE's here :lol:
Author:  tchredneck [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:33 pm ]
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jake- you dk what your talking bout, go rebuild a motor or something :roll: .


the weight added by extra bracing is only a fraction of how much a hole 3/16 bottom weighs, I guess differnt strokes for different folks, I guess that why some of the guy who beat the hell out of more shit have their boats built out of 1/8 and not 3/16...........now if running a outboard that weight doesnt matter build it out 1/4 fork it, but trying to get better speeds 1/8, but whatever
Author:  tchredneck [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:48 pm ]
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yall are missing something here though,

airboats are high HIGH horse powered engineens and those boats are usually only 14-16 ft long, with big block automative engines or high compression aircraft engines, those motors are made to haul 6-10lb vehicles and haul major loads, that weight of that hull is nothing to them motors,
now these mm we run are effect by weight dramatical, ok so light boat=fast boat heavy boat=slow boat

now like i was saying take a long piece of 3/16 with just long runs, that can be bent easier than is thought, take a shorter piece of 1/8 it much harder to bend it. its basic physics


if yall cant see anything im trying to get at, fork it got better things to do
Author:  Sand Man [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:49 pm ]
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:roll: The amount of misinformation spread over the internet if baffling. If you don't think airframe on aircrafts crack, go do a search for crack growth. There's a science to it and extensively used when designing aircraft. Also, take a look at recent grounding of F-15s. Rant over. back to your regular scheduled program of misinformation. :roll: :lol:
Author:  River [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:05 pm ]
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I don't know much about Mis-information.


But I do know that the amount of Stupid People on the internet is mind boggling.


ON EDIIT



I am GOT DAYUM SICK AND TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO POST PICTURES ON THE CHINSY FUKING SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author:  tchredneck [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:08 pm ]
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river enlighten me,

I'm stating what I've seen, grew up around, and what some commercial fisherman in my family/friends all believe it
Author:  River [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:11 pm ]
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I was speaking in generalities.



But I am PISSED THE FORK OFF ABOUT THE PICTURES.
Author:  tchredneck [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:12 pm ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:15 pm ]
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:lol:
Author:  tchredneck [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:18 pm ]
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Author:  coastal [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:28 pm ]
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I just read this whole page.The only thing i get out of it is Pictures dont work and it is not just pissing me off.
Author:  POKER1 [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:19 pm ]
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Pictures are over rated anyway.
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