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th3
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 pm Posts: 173 Location: magnolia
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 hook proof?
anybody runnin a 3/16 bottom? just how durable is it? can it be considered hook proof? anybody dented the bottom of their 0.125 floor? if so what did it take to do it?
i have seen a 0.100 bottom look like a sheet of bubble wrap after one season running our hunting area, those cypress knees are hell on a boat!
im trying to decide if the durability of a 3/16 bottom is worth the extra weight, or if there is a way to beef up the floor of an 0.125 hull... ?
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:41 am |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: hook proof?
This is a questiong we have been debating for years. I know of pleanty of .125" hulls that are in good condition and I know of .125" hulls with so much damage you would think it was .080"
I know in the past bracing was thought to be the problem but i looked at an 1848 with .125 bottom last week that had 6 2x2 longs and 3 2x2 cross braces and the bottom has plenty of hooks in it.
If you think you will keep the boat for a lifetime then get no ligher than a .125 but i would recoment a 3/16 of heaver bottom. Since you are around some rock might even want to call Hoyt or EVT and get some poly put on the bottm if you want it to be a tank.
Weight on the bottom is not as critical IMO because it is evenly displaced across the boat. If you are getting a 18ft boat the weight addition of the 3/18 vs 1/8 will be no more than 60 lbs on a 48 wide and no more than 70 lbs on a 60 wide boat.
FYI...Aluminum is about 1.746 lbs pr sq ft
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:40 pm |
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: hook proof?
1/4" 
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:43 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: hook proof?
..........I would go 5/16 and add 1/4 teflon to it....
good luck.
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:49 pm |
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th3
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 pm Posts: 173 Location: magnolia
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 Re: hook proof?
poly? teflon? i didnt know you could have that installed on the bottom of a boat. if it will stop hooks then thats what im looking for. and 5/16"....thats like 300 ga. whats the thickest thats available to be put on a 17' boat bottom? whats the point where the weight of the bottom outweighs the durability advantage?
_________________ INSTANT REVERSE .....its like a power window, you could live without it, but why bother!!!!
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:23 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: hook proof?
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:08 pm |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: hook proof?
a 1/8 hull will hold up for a while if you know how to drive it. it's good enough for just about everyone. even when it does get hooked up, it'll still run okay.
a 3/16 hull will hook too... if you try hard enough.
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:26 pm |
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westwind
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:22 am Posts: 114
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 Re: hook proof?
What about having the builder run the ribs all the way to the transom and tie them in to the transom?
What about a few more ribs?
I was thinking 3/16 with ribs that run all the way to the transom, keep the floor open the last 6" of the boat by the transom, maybe a few weep holes through the ribs to get the water out. I care less about having a little water in the a$$ of boat than I do about hooking the boat at the transom.
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Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:49 am |
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westwind
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:22 am Posts: 114
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 Re: hook proof?
Something else I been wondering about with hooking at the transom is the PD style of transom with the tabs hanging off the back vs. the angle style transom like Gator Tail does. Looks like Gator Tail runs the rib back to where the bottom of the boat angles up?
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Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:07 am |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: hook proof?
Yall are puttin too much thought into dis. Just find you a good boat builder and tell him what you want. I would think wit his experiance he would know how to build to meet your needs.
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Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:25 pm |
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th3
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 pm Posts: 173 Location: magnolia
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 Re: hook proof?
yea, you would think....... but im not willing to dish out that kind of money relying on one mans experience build me what i need. i would rather talk to as many people as possible and draw from the collective to decide for myself. if we were talking about a 500 dollar item then maybe, yea, too much thought, but we are talking about a 16 thousand dollar rig, give or take a few grand. i dont know anything about building boats, thats why i am asking so many questions to so many people trying to learn all i can so i will have a basic idea of what i need/want. i want to get it right the first time.
_________________ INSTANT REVERSE .....its like a power window, you could live without it, but why bother!!!!
got two wooden nickels and a rabbit's foot, livin on luck like a small time crook.  i wear my soul like alligator skin, hard as leather with a toothy grin.
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Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:27 pm |
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