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Cosmic
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Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:28 pm Posts: 2
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 PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
Can't check lower unit lube. PD allen screws are seized. I have not stripped the out yet, but I'm afraid to put too much tourqe on them. Any ideas?
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sea-n-spots
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:50 pm Posts: 75 Location: La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
First make sure the allen wrench you are attempting with is in good condition, if so you may want to get a "helical" set-screw extractor that fits the 1/4" hex well, it'll get it out.
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:52 am |
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LA OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm Posts: 1096 Location: Morgan City
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
DO THIS AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO DRILL IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. GET THE RIGHT SIZE ALLEN WRENCH.
2 GET A HAMMER.
3 PUT THE ALLEN WRENCH IN AND HIT THE WRENCH WITH THE HAMMER TO BREAK THE RUST FREE FROM THE THREADS. THEN USE A CRESCENT WRENCH (ADJUSTABLE WRENCH) TO TURN THE ALLEN WRENCH.. GET AS CLOSE TO THE END AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU DON'T FLEX THE ALLEN WRENCH...THIS SHOULD GET THEM OUT.....
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:39 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
Some time a meteric one will fit better than a standard. make sure that the wrench is all the way seated in the back of the plugs socket. Also before you hit the end of the allen wrench with a hammer take the slack out of it by holding a little tention with your thumb on the allen wrench in the direction your going to be hitting it (counter clock wise) this will give you a solid strike and lesson the chances of it stripping.
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:48 pm |
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LA OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm Posts: 1096 Location: Morgan City
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
OH and after you get it out put a lil' permatex #2 on the threads..It will keep it from leaking and it will be easy to take them out next time..
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:17 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
I changed mine out to stainless,,,,,,, top and bottom........ 
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Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:53 pm |
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LA OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm Posts: 1096 Location: Morgan City
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
thats a good idea...I will do the same when its time to change the gear oil...
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:47 am |
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Cosmic
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Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:28 pm Posts: 2
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
Thanks guys. I tapped the allen screws with a hammer and they came right out with no problem. Replaced them with stainless and applied Permatex #2, so next time it should not be a problem. What a great place for information. Keep up the good work MMT. 
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:27 am |
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coondik
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:59 am |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
what do you think the lower seal bushing is made of ? sometime I wonder bout you. lol 
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:26 pm |
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schrieverboy
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:06 am Posts: 916 Location: South,La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
stainless aint the best idea for that.. coons right about stainless and alum. if forkn mixes like oil n milk... stainless is a really gummy metal and threads get ate up easy due to a lack of carbon .... stick wit stock screws n keep em lubed
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:12 pm |
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coondik
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:43 pm |
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Da-Cajun-Angla
MMT Addict
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:08 am Posts: 629
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
try kroil or aero kroil...hard to find, but best stuff ever on the market!
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:56 pm |
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schrieverboy
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:06 am Posts: 916 Location: South,La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
nice terminology coondik... "non-ferrous" like dat
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:15 am |
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coondik
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:57 am |
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schrieverboy
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:06 am Posts: 916 Location: South,La
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
What's wrong coondik?? You sound so sexually frustrated?? Ya mans offshore or summn
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:34 am |
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LA OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm Posts: 1096 Location: Morgan City
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:42 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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LA OUTLAW
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:25 pm Posts: 1096 Location: Morgan City
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:14 pm |
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basinhunter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:22 pm Posts: 1642 Location: Morgan City, LA
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:15 pm |
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BROOKS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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 Re: PD Allen Screws Rusted and Seized
Me personally ..... I'll have to side with BayouBoy and the CoonDiks .... that was some good stuff and this thread educated us !!!! Thanks !!!!! 
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:32 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:17 pm |
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coondik
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:32 am |
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