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GulfMarshBayouBay
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2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
hello can anyone tell me there experience with the prodrive clutch making a scratching whining noise while in neutral....... i put it in gear and the noise goes away. it sure feels like the clutch brake is dragging while not engaged.?.?.? i was gonna order one tomorrow but would like to hear what y'all think before i do. thanks a bunch !!!! God Bless
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:06 pm |
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Sounds like your onto it. Is the prop still spinning a little while in neautral
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:26 pm |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:50 pm |
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Then the magnetic brakes are working. Maybe a bearing in the clutch starting to get mad. Hard for me to say replace now or not , but dont wait til duck season to check it out
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:08 pm |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:18 pm |
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banded-mallard
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
The singing you hear is the bearing starting to go out. The bearing defect is ok as long as it doesn't generate too much heat. Too much heat will lead to its failure and damage the windings of the clutch. Then its gone. Your good for now, but I would order the new one before it leaves you stranded.
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:29 am |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:54 am |
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banded-mallard
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
When its gone, it will look similar to this. Notice how the windings are exposed. Too much heat will cause the coating to melt over the windings and thus allow the windings to "touch off" or go straight to ground. Then its done. IMG_3671.JPG IMG_3672.JPG
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:19 am |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Or, like this...
And, don't forget that the bushing goes back on with tapered end toward the engine.
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:49 am |
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BlueShamu
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
With a singing sound, you are close to getting stranded in the middle of nowhere.
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:49 am |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:10 am |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:12 am |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Easy swap...other than having to pull the engine from the tower. Oh yeah...this is what they look like when the bearings are bad...
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:38 am |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Changing a clutch on a PD can be easy or a nightmare..its a 50/50 lol
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:45 am |
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BlueShamu
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Tips... Use some fine grit emery cloth to polish the crankshaft before removing the old one and installing the new one.
PB Blaster to help remove the old one; any lubricant to help install the new one.
Don't bang on the new one with a hammer. I used a piece of 2 x 4 and still used a rubber mallet to lightly tap the new one over the crank.
I torqued the clutch bolt to 48 ft-lbs per the aftermarket manufacturer recommendations.
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:56 am |
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BlueShamu
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Xtreme Outdoor Power asked for my crankshaft dimensions (length out of the tub). They sent me a clutch with a washer/spacer to place between the clutch and the PD bushing.
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:04 am |
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MaXXis85
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
I use the impact and red Loctite. I see a lot more come loose than not...
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Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:42 pm |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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MaXXis85
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:53 am |
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banded-mallard
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:57 am |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Just use an impact
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Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:41 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Pull the flywheel guard...drop a socket or big crescent wrench on the flywheel nut. Easier with two people...but, I did it solo.
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Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:51 pm |
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
okay doke ! thank you both !!!
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
can i ask you gents how to tighten the clutch bolt back when putting the new one on ? i'm trying to torque it but i keep spinning the motor over........
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Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:52 pm |
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cb5331
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
Impact
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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BlueShamu
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
The wire mesh guard and screen above the flywheel....pull them off, exposing the nut which holds the flywheel in place. Use it as a backup while tightening the clutch bolt.
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Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:54 pm |
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MaXXis85
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Re: 2009 Prodrive Clutch singing while in neutral.........?
48-50 foot pounds is too little torque IMO for a 7/16" diameter fine thread bolt. I see a lot of PD clutch bolts back out and cause the clutch to wobble on the shaft. I use an impact and red Loctite. I'm Marcus with BSD and I approve this message LOL.
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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GulfMarshBayouBay
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