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PD lower unit issue in mud!!
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Author:  canvasbackdrake [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:27 pm ]
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I need some help, I just bought a 18x54 prodrive boat and 36hp motor with manual trim and reverse. I went riding this weekend but I was dissapointed on how the motor was handiling in the mud. I had about 1ft of water and mixture of soft and hard mud but it would not get me out of this situation. This happend to me a couple of times, I had to actually get out and push which was no big deal. It did run fine in deep water. I tried to trim it up and down and move it side to side but all I had was mud everywhere. I am guessing in the manual trim that when you are in mud the lower unit will not crank down when the prop is hitting mud anymore becuse I tried and all I could see was the wheel just turnig untill I hit deeper water. Should I change it to a hydraulic trim? The motor was able to go through real soft mud with no issues. Am I doing something wrong? I did see when I did hit shallow muddy water that I was doing fine until I slowed down and than all my issues started. This is my first Prodrive motor so any assistance would appreciated. :roll:
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:35 pm ]
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Shallow hard bottom can give you fits. Experience is worth it weight in gold and time on the tiller will solve alot of your issues. I don't know how anyone can get by with the wheel. I am on the trim all the time in the chit. Thats why the ol running joke with member Mudhole was so funny, He was known as the wheel man and he got plenty of practice cussing us. If you can imagime 10 boats pull up to him sweatin his azz off on that wheel trying to get moving and everyone trimming up and down forking with him. :lol: PD should just drop the wheel. I wouldn't wish that on any of my customers................. :lol:
Author:  LA Mudder [ Sat May 01, 2010 9:21 pm ]
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Congrats on the buy and X2 on tiller time being very valuable. is it a used rig or brand new?
Author:  Sonny13 [ Sat May 01, 2010 11:38 pm ]
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x2 on the tiller time. I got the trim wheel on my 32 pd and i live in Iowa. We hunt in WI, IA, MN, and ND. The ground up here is never a "soft" mud. Hard bottom is the devil. Over time you will know what to run in and how to run it. These motors are not a fix all to our problems, they are a tool and one just needs to know how and when to use it.
Author:  50fps [ Sun May 02, 2010 8:36 am ]
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Author:  canvasbackdrake [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:56 pm ]
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Thank for the info, LA MUDDER I bought this rig a month ago with 13hrs. Practically brand new!!! I guess I just need to get used to the trim. What is tiller time!!!
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:02 pm ]
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What is tiller time!!!

EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: To include many "so thats how thats done" and also alot of "fork, I shouldn't have done that"s :lol:
Author:  craig [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:27 pm ]
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Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:33 pm ]
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Its a pretty easy problem to fix!! Just saw of the 10'x10' knuckle and put a Gt lower unit in its place!! Problem solved!! :lol: :D :shock: :? :roll: ;) ;) ;)
Author:  cmelvin [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:36 pm ]
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i was wondering how long it would take for terry to chime in on this one :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  craig [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:39 pm ]
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Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:44 pm ]
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Author:  DeathMetalDukk [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:49 pm ]
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My motor is by no means close to the caliber of everybody else's on here, but I know this - our bottoms are hard and sandy here, and to run through it I have to lift my prop out of the water and hold it in the "sweet spot" where it can push the boat but not drag bottom, maybe that will help you. If the prop drags bottom most of the time here, it will just bounce, we don't have a whole lot of soft mud like you guys in LA do.
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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Lost for words fellers!! :mrgreen: :lol:
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:59 pm ]
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No, just taking a break. You make my head hurt........... :lol:
Author:  craig [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:59 pm ]
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I love J Breaux's drive by! :lol:
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:02 pm ]
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Author:  DeathMetalDukk [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:04 pm ]
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I swear the reverse on dem dam pd's is stronger than the forward :lol: .
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:08 pm ]
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that video is classic :D . stick time does play a factor, but the equipment also does play a big role. overtime you will learn whats works best ;)
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:09 pm ]
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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:11 pm ]
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i was referin that last part to canvasbak, not you terry. we all know you are a master at the tiller. the video is proof
Author:  POKER1 [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:12 pm ]
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So the GT's secret is you have more reach to get down and get a better bite in that mud you have to search out to be able to show up a PD????? Priceless. But it has no real world value to anyone other than the very few folks that search out that kind of just right mud to play in in the first place. So hats off to the mighty GT and the 1 area that you have a little advantage in......... :roll: I can take you up some creeks and such up here that you can't turn your boat around for a mile or 2. I'll reverse on out and be finished with the beer if and when you get there.......... That make me special too............ :lol: I have a solution to your mud issue, you can't touch FPR..... :lol:
Author:  craig [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:13 pm ]
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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:15 pm ]
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Author:  cmelvin [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:17 pm ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:28 pm ]
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Author:  OwenDickeson [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:35 pm ]
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Author:  50fps [ Tue May 04, 2010 10:44 am ]
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Chit a MB is just a GT without reverse, whereas a PD is unique. :P



Having ran all 4 of the major manufactures designs in the same conditions, I'll stay with the PD.





Unless of course Hoyt/Kyle would build me a GTR frame to throw my Small Block Kohler engine on, shouldn't be to hard considering they used to offer it.
Author:  deltaduckmaster [ Tue May 04, 2010 8:07 pm ]
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I got a few ?? for you die hard pd fellers!!!

Why if the mud is tougher to go trough up north yall say bring yall gt exc.mm up here and yall will show us southern boys how much better the pd's are.. If you cant run with the gt in the south what the fork you think going north is gonna do for yall.. Do they send the bad boys north or something!!!!If so i think that is racist!! You run down a narrow ditch for miles and come out in reverse so that means that the gt boys cant go in narrow places so we just stay in mud flats and lakes!!!!(That is a good one) Now not once have i ever i mean ever seen a video to back up all these claims.. Have anyone ever posted a video of a pd pulling on the side of a stuck gt and just left!! If yall have one please post so i can see this!! On the other hand i have plenty !! In that video has it ever once downed on yall i never even used my reverse.. I never even gave it full trottle!! :!: :!: :?: :?: And the whole time they were both stuck like chuck!!!If the other video didnt soot you heres a nother i like it put it in reverse and the fear on his face lol.. Fellers i most likly know more about yall motors and the capabilities than yall do Enjoy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E87ddUyl ... 8b1a105f0a
Author:  Gigafowl [ Tue May 04, 2010 8:44 pm ]
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If you can't convince them, confuse them.
-H S Truman / DDM
Author:  POKER1 [ Tue May 04, 2010 9:00 pm ]
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Hey Terry, you can stop yankin on it any time. No one really gives a chit that your a legend in your own mind. :roll: So your dumb azz can find some mud that your precious GT can perform better than a PD with a shorter outdrive. Big fucking whoop. Aint no PD owners ever try to run down GT but you personally have made it your mission in life to do just that to PD and its owners at every turn. 90% of anything from the PD side is directed at your constant barage of attacks. Dude you really got some little man issues going on. Either that or Kyle added the stipulation into your contract for your sponsorship that says you should show your azz at every opportunity. Yeh there is some BSin going on at times but you act like someone is trying to butt fork you with every post. Is life really that miserable for you? Can't stand not being the center of attention or getting your ego inflated. Its pretty sad at times.
Author:  OwenDickeson [ Tue May 04, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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Author:  craig [ Tue May 04, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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Why can't we all just get along? :D
Author:  bayouboy [ Wed May 05, 2010 1:05 am ]
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Author:  POKER1 [ Wed May 05, 2010 2:08 am ]
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Author:  bayouboy [ Wed May 05, 2010 2:17 am ]
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Author:  dog walker [ Wed May 05, 2010 4:34 am ]
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pro drive or gatortail whatever, what I wanna know is who is the douchbag running the boat in those pics :lol:
Author:  OwenDickeson [ Wed May 05, 2010 5:43 am ]
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Author:  EasTexDux88 [ Wed May 05, 2010 8:43 am ]
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