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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Just picked up my new GT Rig this weekend. Had it in the water for the first time today. I am brand new to this site and mud boats. My Rig: 1754 GT Boat with Hunt Deck 2012 GTR Aluminum trailer Speeds: ??? Need some help... I hope this is the right spot to post stuff like this. Some of ya'll can be a little rough if things are a litte out of place. There isnt anyone around where I am that run a mud boat who I know and can talk too. I need some advice on how to trim this thing out. I didnt get any help from GT except trim all the way down when using reverse. THAT WAS IT!! So the rest I guess Im on my own. A little dissapointed in the speeds and the lack of time spent from the GT folks. Also when I put in in foward, sometimes it dies. Other than that I love the setup. So if anyone could post some tips for trimming this thing out I would appreciate it. I live in Aransas Pass Texas. Cell number is 361-449-5320. If anyone is around here or could help me out a little that would be great. Thanks in advance Vince |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Trim it to run half the prop out of water. And bump your idel rpms up to 1200 |
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| Author: | quackconsumer [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:58 pm ] |
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You can also bend the little tab with the spring, that controls how low your rpms drop when under a load ie engaging clutch. |
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| Author: | craig [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
What else were you expecting? |
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| Author: | cb5331 [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:21 pm ] |
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Craig, it seems like a lot of folks have been having the issue with the motor killing when you engage the clutch. The last few guys with the problem did not have the governed idle spring. Did GT do away with that part on their motors? If so, what was the logic behind that? |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Thank you Quackconsumer. I appreciate the advice. I am going to do what you said. When I am running in deep water should there be a rooster tail or or is that trimmed up to high? Craig. I just figured maybe someone would take a little time to explain some things. Maybe it would run and adjust itself.. Guess you dont expect much and neither should I |
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| Author: | autogateman [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Almost every new stock motor I've ever seen was idled too low, because they have never been put under load. One reason the throttle response is crap until you get it set right, then it's just less crappy till you get a mikuni. Lol |
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| Author: | txmudcutter [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:44 pm ] |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Thanks for all the replies. I have done all the research I could. Little hard in South texas. Gator tail seemed like the best so thats what I went with. I agree that I need to spend some time behind the tiller and plan on doing so. I will figure it out somehow... Adjusting the idle now. Then going to research the carb that was mentioned by autogateman Thanks Again |
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| Author: | txmudcutter [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
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| Author: | Team Camo [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:40 pm ] |
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Feel like taking a road trip? We're gonna have a lil ride on the 1st here in SETX. I'll be happy to show you anything I can on the motor and answer any questions you might have. |
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| Author: | deltaduckmaster [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
A easy way to know were to trim. If you have a gps use it to help you learn. Take of wide open trim up slowly all the while you should gain speed as soon as you stop gaining speed pop it back down one tap and that is it. Once you been in it a while you will learn buy the sound and feel of the boat what's the sweet spot. As for as idle you may have to speed it ip a notch you can idle it up to around 1450 to 1550. The little tab they were Talking about don't exist on a Cdi motor!! Good luck and enjoy |
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| Author: | craig [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:02 am ] |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Thanks for all of yalls support. I did adjust my idle up like you said. Havent tried it under a load yet. Couldnt find the "tab" but now I know why... Camo- Road trip planning in progress. I would like to head up that way that weekend. I guess I didnt ask enough questions. I was more worried about maintenance questions. They are always busy and I dont like to bother people. Thanks Craig for the PM |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
The motor is set on the middle hole on the transom bracket. Will it help if I move to the top? It doesnt trim out like a regular boat so I guess Im not to sure where that optimal spot is. Hopefully I can meet up with camo and he can help me out with the idle problem and probly expalin all these frustrating questions... |
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| Author: | craig [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
I would try running it at all three positions to determine which gives you the best performance. You want to be able to trim up high enough so that you begin to lose speed and gain RPM's...then drop back down a little. |
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| Author: | take'emgator [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:12 pm ] |
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IN the middle hole is fine, What terry is saying is while your running watch your GPS and trim up till you stop gaining speed and bump it down a notch that will be your optimal speed for your rig. These things are a learning curve and it'll take time but just like anything else it can be figured out, if you make the ride you'll definitly earn some experience points over here. Hope to see you there |
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| Author: | take'emgator [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:13 pm ] |
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Crap craig beat me to it |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Thanks Guys.. I appreciate it alot. I finally have some days off and gonna go run the hell out of it. Im going to attempt to adjust the idle again and try what you all said about the trim. I ll keep you updated and hopefully get to meet you all soon. |
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| Author: | dog walker [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Also get you another bolt just like the one that's in your transom bracket,make sure to get a grade 8 bolt. Put the old bolt in the bottom and leave it there. Take the new one and drill a small hole in the threads and put a pin in it so you can use that pin in the hole where your set up runs the best. If you get in a bind pull the quick pin and let the motor drop to the bottom hole. With the pin in the bottom hole you can trim down deeper which will help you get out of thick nasty crap. |
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| Author: | UNCLE-J [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Pipelinefish, Don't feel like your the only one. Take'mgator owned his GTR for a long time before he learned to drive. A few things to do if you want full potential : * Tiller Time (drive it as much as you can) * dog that Mutha out!! (It's made by the people that use it; not by some engineering firm that don't know what abuse they will take) * WIde Open Trottle usually works best Hope that helps!!! With Love, Uncle J |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Alright.. Took the GT out a few times this weekend to do some duck and fish hunting. People down here dont know what to think about this boat. I even got stopped by a local cop so he could see what it was. The only people I ever see around where I hunt and fish is an occasional air boat guide. I took all of ya'lls advice and applied it! Got the trim down! I think... Deep Water by myself, beer, and a few redfish. 29.1 Deep Water Me, Girlfriend, 6doz deeks and all my gear 26. 3 I ran in shallow water by myself but was too scared to look at my gps. It did seem faster though. I love this boat!!!! Thanks everyone for their patients and support. Vince Smith |
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| Author: | craig [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:37 pm ] |
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Awesome! |
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| Author: | txmudcutter [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
X2 sounds like you got it dailed in enjoy it |
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| Author: | lastchance [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:18 pm ] |
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| Author: | Team Camo [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:41 pm ] |
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Glad to hear you're gettin it figured out. Tiller time makes all the difference in the world. |
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| Author: | chaseh [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
I think it's too fancy for you.... I'll trade you my modded GDSD so you don't have as much to worry about while driving! |
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| Author: | TonyGMcElroy [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
If u was scared to look down at tha GPS i think u got it goin fast enough |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
where you at in south texas pipeline? Ive got family down in edinberg and am down that way quit often to visit. I also hunt with a buddy out of victoria down in the delta when I can...... |
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| Author: | Team Camo [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:19 am ] |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:46 pm ] |
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Yep Aransas Rockport area. I hunt Matagorda, Seadrift, Mission River. Fish here in Port Aransas. Let me know if ya get down this way. Im still trying to get my boat figured out but Im getting alot more comfortable with it now. Would like to meet someone that knows a little about these things. Wanted to plan a trip to SETX to maybe meet up with a few of yall and try to get Camo to work on my motor. Thanks |
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| Author: | RioRaton [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
I'm in the same boat but yes I also researched everything I knew to research and it's funny when some candy ass tells you that you didn't. About like any motor these days, they gotta be opened up to breath better. I'm about to start working on mine. You a pipeliner? Just guessing from your name. Where you work? |
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| Author: | WestEndAngler [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:06 am ] |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:06 am ] |
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Hey pipe.....Ill holler next time im down that way.....was just in refugio 2 weeks ago and cuero last week.....I was looking to hunt the delta but couldnt get my friend to skip out on work so I didnt go......I dont like hunting by myself in places im totally unfamiliar with..... |
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| Author: | TX Aggie '06 [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
X2 on the funny looks. I brought my old PD down to Port A for a fishing tournament and you would have thought i was walking with an elephant on my back! Folks look at you like a confused puppy! Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | eljefe [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:54 am ] |
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but you can see the envy in their eyes.....those boys with their badass cc's wishing they could get as shallow as you!!!!! lol |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
LOL Very true. Thanks for all the replies. Westend I will take you up on that, i can make that trip pretty easy. Eljefe hit me up. I run a Pipeline terminal out of Refugio. I drug my boat to work the last few days and have been scoutin the delta there for the 2nd half. Im just waiting on the dates for that big mud run in Feb so i can take some time off from work. Aint gonna miss out this time. Thanks again |
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| Author: | billcollector [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MY NEW GATOR TAIL- HELP |
Pipelinefish, i'm guessing you don't hunt Aransas pass because of all the no prop zones down there? I've done alot of duck hunting down there all with airboats. I sure wish i could find some good duck hunting down in that area where i could use my MM. Also when you and Coe, and Eljefe get together for a ride, hit me up i'd like to go. i live about an hour NW of Houston. |
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| Author: | pipelinefish [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:43 pm ] |
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For sure Billcollector. We'll hit ya up soon. Since I got my boat I have found way better places than the REDFISH BAY SYSTEM to hunt. On the Copano and Mission deta side of Rockport. Come on down and Ill show ya. |
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| Author: | 1st-n-last59 [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:28 pm ] |
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I'm working in kenedy. Is there anywhere good to hunt down there. I'm from netx but I'm working down here. I could show u a lol bit but sounds like good speeds to me. |
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