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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
MM Brand: Backwater 27 EFI swomp Koehler 2012 bought used Horsepower:27 Boat Brand: flat bottom Weldbuilt Boat Size: 1648 Boat Layout: all open except 30" front deck and 2storage pods in rear
Speeds | Shallow Water: haven't run any skinny water yet Speeds | Deep Water: 20 Total Boat Load With Gear Etc: full gas tank in front dozen decoys me (230) and buddy (170) other misc duck hunting gear guns bags boat blind (banded axe) etc. Conditions Tested In: light chop Ohio river good stiff current defiantly ran smoother & faster downriver
So far I like this combo its is my first MM so bit of a learning curve so far. Some y'all tell me if my speeds are good? Happy with 20 but if co can get more .......?
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:56 pm |
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brstanle
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:27 am Posts: 659 Location: SETX/Houston
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Man, you're not going to get much more out of that rig. I'm actually surprised, I figured you'd get that with less of a load.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:34 am |
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BERNIE255
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:43 pm Posts: 1381 Location: Avoyelles Parish/ Marksville LA
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
You are doing pretty good with what you got, the best way to tell if you can get more out of it is to check your rpms running at WOT in the water
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:53 am |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Going to order the tach for my motor in the next few days. It does seem that I could get a few more RPMs?
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:27 pm |
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brstanle
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:27 am Posts: 659 Location: SETX/Houston
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
I don't know if you'll get more out of it. Those are pretty good numbers but the tach will tell. You may fool around with the prop just to find out it was already setup well enough.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:37 pm |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
That is ideal, enjoy that combo! Wear the kill switch lanyard, get plenty of practice, and ease into the turns. Gatorglide/steelflex the bottom; hydroturf the floor; you will have a regular mud motor Cadillac! Ibuprofen goes good with strong coffee.
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Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:24 pm |
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TFWaterfowlSAV
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:48 pm Posts: 17
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Definitely talk to the guys at Backwater when you are trying to dial in your setup. I have a swomp also and they are some awesome guys.
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Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:04 am |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
So I got the tach the other day. Got it set for the v twin and says I am at 3600rpm out of water at WOT. I think that's the factory setting on the fuel injected kohlers? Going to run it Wednesday to scout and will see what I am getting in the water.
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:37 pm |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Ran it scouting the other day it's like 3380 rpm in the water just me and dog. 19 mph
So I guess my RPM s are where they should be ???
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:25 pm |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Lightly loaded you want your rpm closer to 4000, a little more than that won't hurt. Sounds like you need to look at cav plate adjustment, and weight distribution in your boat. What prop did it ship with?
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:09 pm |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:49 pm |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:08 pm |
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Gunshinestate407
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Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:58 pm Posts: 216 Location: Orlando
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
I had the same problem. I fixed it by taking a little slack out of the throttle cable so I now get full travel on the throttle linkage.
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:32 pm |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:46 pm |
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Gunshinestate407
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Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:58 pm Posts: 216 Location: Orlando
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My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Glad u got it figured out! I was toppin out at 3400 rpm and adding those extra 3-400 rpm added a couple mph.
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Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 pm |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:00 pm |
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
So what happened after tweaking the throttle? My next longtail will definitely be a BackH2o! Test drove a 35 swomp this summer, definitely a beast, not sure I want that much weight on the transom of my 1648, a bit harder to turn, might just stay with the 26.5 (formerly 27). A fine product!
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Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:34 am |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:16 am |
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
Ok, good luck! We re-start on the 12th; I am running a 9x6 prop, getting a few more rpms, 1-2 mph more than the 9x7.
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Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:31 am |
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Hendoduckhunter
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Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 35
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
So last couple runs here is what happened....... Deep water just me and a blind.& full gas tank ran 20 mph upriver I am happy with it cause it look like that all I am going to get. I was able to run with a pretty good hunt load in shallow water yesterday and got it to plane out run about 15 mph had three guys 230 , 200 & 160 . Had a dog all the bags and seats 4 dozen decoys all in all a hell of load for a 1648!
_________________ All I care about is killin Ducks and like 4 people and my dog!
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:41 am |
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SwampnutzWi
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Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:55 pm Posts: 100 Location: Central Wi
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
To repeat again, you've got a great hunting/fishing tool; add a trolling motor in the off-season of course. Dollar for dollar, that motor is a great deal- powerful, reliable, albeit slower than a high-falooting surface drive mm, but nothing to be ashamed of. Enjoy the ride, let those ADD monkeys with their loud mufflers and umpteen horses scare all the ducks out of their marshes!
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:54 am |
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SwampnutzWi
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Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:55 pm Posts: 100 Location: Central Wi
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
I've never figured out why the hell do ppl run loud mufflers? I can motor into my duck hole and not even bump all the birds out with my stock quiet muffler. Quiet is a advantage.
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:23 am |
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
The loud is to make up for certain inherent deficiencies....
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Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:46 am |
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SwampnutzWi
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Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:55 pm Posts: 100 Location: Central Wi
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jakehawk9
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Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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SwampnutzWi
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Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:55 pm Posts: 100 Location: Central Wi
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Re: My new to me less than 5 K duck rig
I was thinking more along the lines of something's size lol
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