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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Hello,
Im thinking about purchasing a used Beavertail 27hp longtail. Have done some research, but still have some questions. Should the prop turn a little (1/4 turn or less) on the shaft when the engine is not running? Is that normal, or does it need some attention?
THANKS IN ADVANCE, David
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:13 pm |
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backwaterballer
MMT Addict
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:39 pm Posts: 715 Location: Pearland Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
I keep my prop alil loose in between the nuts it helps when time to take the prop off. I keep mine about 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn. So I think you would be ok with what you got.
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:20 pm |
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Tony B
MMT Site Admin
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:10 pm Posts: 2258 Location: Loreauville, LA
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Welcome to MMT!
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:16 am |
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Yep, that sounds right. and WELCOME TO MMT!
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:15 pm |
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caddobrook
MMT F.E.
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 881
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Welcome, and there was a thread a while back that covered that for a go-devil..
assuming it would be same on beavertail..
you might search it up and ck it out...
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:18 pm |
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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Thanks guys for the answers. I did see the Go-devil thread, but I was not sure if they were similar. I thought some manufacturers used splined shafts.
I took the boat for a test drive today and I believe everything works as it should.....I just need someone to teach me how to drive the thing. I looked at the threads about adjusting the cavitation plate and adjusting the skeg. I am hoping it will just be a learning curve, but I had a hard time turning. I had to lean on the tiller to get it to turn. Is there a "driving a longtail 101" thread anyplace? Im used to console steer jon boats.
THANKS, David
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:09 pm |
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backwaterballer
MMT Addict
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:39 pm Posts: 715 Location: Pearland Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Where you from
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:14 pm |
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Tenpoint
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Only thing that can help ya is stick time. As long as the motor isnt pulling or pushing on ya too bad, and the prop is stayin in da water, all ya can do is keep on truckin. And be careful! If ya dont respect that thing, it will hurt ya.
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:15 pm |
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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Im in Virginia...
The motor is not pulling. Im actually thinking the prop may be too far in the water. I find myself leaning on the handle, and am thinking that is a really bad habit. Dont want hit anything and have the handle toss me out the boat.
THANKS for the tips.
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:42 pm |
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
probably runnin too deep, and yes, becareful with that handle. one good log and your out
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:08 am |
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HUNT4DEER
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 833 Location: DODGIN ROCKS ON THE RIVER OR CARS ON THE INTERSTATE
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
they do take some effort to hang on to. its been 10 years since ive run a long tail like that. rember the work out though.
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:58 pm |
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backwaterballer
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Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:39 pm Posts: 715 Location: Pearland Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
I hear everyone saying how bad the longtails beat you up, but mine runs super smooth I barely hold on to my handle. I guess mine is just dail in to the right depth
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:42 pm |
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Tenpoint
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:07 pm |
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trev93
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:48 pm Posts: 222 Location: Walker, LA
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:22 pm |
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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Thanks for all the comments. I am definitely a rookie at this. When I accelerate, it looks like the cav plate pulls the prop down into the water. I tried adjusting the rubber stopper, but I really have no idea where it should run. When I am just at idle, how deep should the prop be???? At full throttle, how deep should it be?
Im hoping to play with it a little this weekend, and hopefully have better results.
THANKS,
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:28 am |
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
mine runs really smooth. it just sucks when runnin tight spots wide open and smackin a big ass log especially while turning!
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:26 pm |
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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
OK.....got to play around a little today.....I think I am starting to get the hang of it. Steering is easier when passenger sits still. Does 15.5 MPH sound OK for the 27 HP longtail pushing a 1854 welded boat?
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Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:36 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
16mph sounds just a lil slow. The longtails definitely prefer a long narrow boat. What kind of "all welded" boat is it. Guessing a semi-v with ribs? If so thats probably about right depending on the load? Looked like you had at least one passenger.
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Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:42 pm |
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mud doctor
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:44 am Posts: 8
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Hey dwhipper61, I found out that if you keep the prop just under the surface of the water before it wants to skip out on top of the surface, and thats where I found out the best performance and speed. One other thing, pay attention to the RPM of the engine, when you put the prop deeper into the water it wants to bog down a little, and it will cause slower speeds and turning, therefore place the prop just under the surface that way you can obtain that high RPM speed, turning, and speed of your boat. Let me know how that works.
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Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:57 am |
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dwhipper61
MMT Member
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 35
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the input....Been playing with new boat for a few weeks now and am starting to get the hang of it.....The one thing I noticed that makes the most difference is to have the passengers sit still. The boat is very responsive to weight shifts. Im guessing that is normal?????? I didnt notice that much in my previous outboard boats.
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Mon May 10, 2010 6:20 am |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Re: NEW guy with 1st of many questions....
Yeah its normal. We were running last weekend and had a cooler sitting a little off center. Not even enough to create any tiller torque, just a little bit. Slid it over about a foot and picked up almost two miles an hour. Weight distribution makes a huge difference.
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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