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Post 35hp & 37hp long tails, what boat and what speeds?
For those of you who own or have run a 35hp or 37hp long tail, what but did you run it on and what speeds did you see with a full load? There does not seem to be much info out there on the bigger Long tails.


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Check out Frank's lite BW 37 efi on an alweld 1752 review in the Reviews forum! You can also use the search function on that forum and find other previous reviews of 35/37 longtails. I know they can run on a 16' hull but longer is better- 1844/1848/19' and 2044...If I ever go up from my 26.5 HP to the 37, would have to be on an 1844/1848 flat bottom open floor speed hull. :geek:

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long, skinny and lightweight for the larger HP Long tail rigs


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I run a 35 on an 18/48. Loaded up it does 18.


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Good to hear from you, stu! You can forget waders for the moment, I had to fab a longer push pole and strung longer lines on the decoys! Have you taken a run on your end of the glades? I had to find a new "island", last year's is barely above water. :mrgreen:

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Bw35 lite, 1744 , 23 with two guys 10x6 prop. Gdlt 35 warmed up a bit 1844 25mph loaded bw9x8 cleaned up


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Will, what boat were /are you running?


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These are just 2 boats that I'm close to. I just got my new boat from WC 1948. Haven't had a chance to finish it up yet


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Not wanting to hijack this thread, but Will C, what is the gauge/weight of that 1948? Some day I hope to go custom, would like one in that approx. configuration, open floor, as light as possible. Around here I could definitely get by with .090. My 1648 grizzly is #400 lbs, and that is more than enough.

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All 1/8 . Its a dream boat for me


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No doubt! I started with a 1436/ 18 GD LT, then a 1544/ 25 GD LT, then the 1648/ 27 MB LT, now the 26.5 EFI BW....want to morph to the bigger hull, obviously will have to go custom because all the factory types usually have too much stuff. I figure WC or most custom shops will take 6-12 months to build? Hopefully I will retire in a couple of years and then order me what I want!

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It really dosent take near that long to get one built. Have a good one


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Post Re: 35hp & 37hp long tails, what boat and what speeds?
Glades Ranger wrote:
Good to hear from you, stu! You can forget waders for the moment, I had to fab a longer push pole and strung longer lines on the decoys! Have you taken a run on your end of the glades? I had to find a new "island", last year's is barely above water. :mrgreen:


What's up Glades? Haven't been out yet. Gonna go out and start looking around next. The water is high everywhere.


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Here's a write up I did for my fall 2017 hunting. It's a bit long, best speed we saw was 27 MPH down river with 3 guys, hunting/survival gear, some gas. Averaged maybe 12-14 loaded up river, 16-18 loaded going down river, depending on current and wind. Usually on the long Yukon days, regardless if going up or down, the wind is in your face. I think I can get a little more speed out of it with some adjustments, I'll find out next year as the water is getting too hard to boat here. There's a youtube link at the end, I couldn't figure out how to make it work here.

For the 2017 fall hunting season here in Alaska, I mounted 35hp Swamp Runner on my old 1848 Ouachita jon boat.

My uncle and a buddy flew into town a few days later, and the three of us loaded our gear into the truck, hooked up the boat and made the tow to the Yukon River. After a long boat ride on the Yukon we made it to our target camp up a tributary not to be named.

After making camp and lightening the load, we began the climb upstream into high country and prime caribou habitat.

We went up around 50 river miles from the mouth of this mountain tributary. We were able to climb through numerous rapids, and gain over 550 feet in elevation in that distance.

I’d hunted this area in previous years with a surface drive, but have never made it up river as far as we did this year with a Swamp Runner longtail. This was in part due to high water, but also a greater confidence I had in the Swamp Runner for several reasons; it’s lighter so would hopefully damage the boat less should the boat strike a rock or I beach it inadvertently at speed, the long tail flexes to absorb a hard strike on the rocks where my surface drive is rigid and has on many occasions ripped the tiller from my hand and raked me from my hip to my shin, and I had many spare props that could be easily changed should I brake them.
The rapids and rock gardens we had to punch through were a challenge, and downright scary at times.

We went several days without seeing caribou. We had reached a braided rock garden that was shallower and more rocky than anything we’d weaved through so far, it was the halfway point of each trip from camp, trips which for days yielded only tracks and scant fresh poop. On the morning trip of the third day, we were on our way back to camp from that garden, planning drastic measures for the afternoon hunt. We’d either take a walk after lunch to a ridge top from which to glass or try to pick our way up the braided rock garden that had been our turning point.

As we made our way just barely on step back towards camp we spotted a group of caribou crossing the river. We couldn’t believe it! Nearly lunch time on a clear hot day and there they were! We couldn’t discern any for sure bulls in the group, so we stayed our rifles and hit the beach to wait in the brush, for where one group crosses more should. We watched several groups cross, with a few animals trying to cross on top of us! They were so close we felt their hooves beat the ground when they turned from us. After watching that stretch for some time we couldn’t ignore our bellies any longer. We decided to pick our way back to camp and the cook stove, traveling as slowly as the boat could stay on step over the shallows and slower in the deep to get a good look at the riverside bluffs.

After rounding several bends we came across a caribou that was certainly a bull, large antlers cleaned of velvet, white beard swaying back and forth in concert with his head gear. This bull was accompanied by a smaller bou who’s sex was dubious. After Uncle took the for sure bull, I was able to discern that the smaller velvet antlered animal was a bull, and immediately made meat.

With three sets of hands we had the animals cut up and boated in short order. We made it to camp with plenty of time to eat well, stage the meat to cool and be dry for the night, and prepare for breaking camp and loading the boat in the morning for the trip home. We traveled roughly 300 river miles total, from the truck to camp, then up and down hunting, and from camp to the truck. We burned between 40 and 45 gallons of the 60 we brought, carrying three men, two tents, food, gear, sparse and light camp kitchen items and single burner stove, rifles...the payload, counting the motor, started as an estimated 1,500 pounds.

After a couple days at home to butcher, bag, freeze meat and take care of town business, Uncle and I were headed back out for moose. We were less one man and his camp and gear lighter, and carried only 50 gallons of gas. Payload this trip started as an estimated 1,100 pounds.

We only had to go a few miles up that river for moose camp, as they generally, generally, were found more regularly in the lower flatter part of the river. The water is slower down there, the rocks smaller and more round, unlike the can openers up high. We made camp with enough time to eat and take a ride up river. The quiet motor allowed is close looks at cow moose, grazing on the willow crowding the river bank. We followed the same routine as caribou hunting, early out and about, back at camp for lunch, out in the early evening timing arrival back at camp with the end of comfortable running light.

Every cow moose we saw deserved a close look, as it could be a small bull or in the company of a rutting monster. We slowed down for such moose a little before dark, but closer inspection showed it was a young bull! We cut the engine, allowing the current to bring us to bear. It knew we were there before we saw it, but the quiet engine failed to spook him off. And by the time he realized we were bad news it was too late! The first bullet took him a smidge back of the heart, but destroyed both lungs. Had he not been walking away from the river the second shot would have been unnecessary, but an animal that large can’t be allowed to walk too far into the brush!

We were home the next evening, with time to cut and freeze meat for Uncle to take home. The motor performed wonderfully, got every load on step and over the shallows. Our average loaded speed was about 15 miles per hour up river, 19 or so loaded down river. Best speed was 27 mph going back downriver to camp empty. Though we dinged props on the rocks, we did not break any. The curls will be filed off and the props will keep pushing my boat.

This was a great trip, ending with full freezers and fuel to spare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KsahTVP-4M


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Wow! Great adventure! Would love to do that! Any duck hunting in that area? Bon appetit!

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Duck hunting all over! I spooked mallards, pintails, and geese off the Yukon. I don't duck hunt as much as I wish. You see, the problem with duck hunting is it ruins a good moose hunt!


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Awsome trip. I was shocked when u said swamprunner, lol . This story should have its own topic, not lost down here in longtail speeds. Thanks for sharing


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For those of you who own or have run a 35hp or 37hp long tail, what but did you run it on and what speeds did you see with a full load? There does not seem to be much info out there on the bigger Long tails.

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Will C wrote:
Awsome trip. I was shocked when u said swamprunner, lol . This story should have its own topic, not lost down here in longtail speeds. Thanks for sharing



Didn't take much of a twist of my arm to start a fresh topic!


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Round chine, Bernie! :mrgreen:

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I have a go devil shallow drive 16/48 boat with a 35hp Mudbuddy longtail. I get 24mph by myself and 21 to 22 loaded. I do alot of frog hunting and the longtail works good for that. I used to think I wanted a shallow drive until I operated one. I would 10 times rather have a longtail.


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A friend got stuck bad with a surface drive the other day...with a longtail you usually bottom out quicker and avoid that situation, which normally includes excessive prop wear- the sand/marl bottom here is a guarantee to wear it down sharp in a minute. I would have to agree with your sentiment about the longtail. Must say with all of mine, including GD, MB, and now BW, they are very reliable, albeit slower and more cumbersome to drive but my present BW is a lot "tamer" and user-friendly, and my left arm is very strong. BW is now getting rid of the U-joint and going with a straight and beefier shaft and that should prove even more efficient. Your speeds are fine, I have reached a happy "plateau" of 20 mph by myself that is fast enough in my marsh.

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I run a backwater 35 swomp on an Alweld 1752, in lake best I saw was 24 with a 9x8 prop. No load duck hunting load and 3 guys going up river with current best was 13 but my prop was wore during duck season. Going to order a new one soon so I’ll see how it does

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Post Re: 35hp & 37hp long tails, what boat and what speeds?
Im a bit late to the party but was wondering how fast a 35hp longtail would go on a 1544 alumacraft with large beavertail pods? Im only seeing 16mph with a 25hp kohler by myself. The engine is old but still muscles through with 2 people hitting about 13-14mph. Im thinking of maybe buying a new engine and putting it on my longtail frame.


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Post Re: 35hp & 37hp long tails, what boat and what speeds?
Seems like those pods would have a negative effect on a longtail. With a 25 Kohler Godevil LT on an 1848 Ouachita I was getting closer to 20 MPH nearly empty going up river. Slowed way down under load, course when I go heavy I usually go too heavy.


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