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blackdawg
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am Posts: 26
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 35 Vanguard
What would the optimum rpm's be for a 35 vanguard on a longtail, I have a "new" to me gd 1660 boat, only getting 2700-2800. thanks
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| Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:26 pm |
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MarshJB
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:34 pm Posts: 932
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
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| Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:31 pm |
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blackdawg
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am Posts: 26
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Guess I have to figure out what the problem is now.
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| Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:42 pm |
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270Handiman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
2800 in neutral?
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MarshJB
MMT F.E.
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:34 pm Posts: 932
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
_________________ 17x54 Extreme W/ GTR-35L Stage 1
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270Handiman
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Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
No, I was asking him if his neutral (or out of water) max rpms were only 2800, or if that was just a number from when he was running the boat.
We have no idea about trim position, load, or anything else that would affect rpm's under a load.
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| Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:23 am |
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MarshJB
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
I know, I was just throwing that out there.
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| Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:38 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Adjust the governor to 4300 rpm at wide open throttle with the prop out of the water. Set idle rpms to 1200 with prop out of the water.
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| Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:38 am |
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blackdawg
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am Posts: 26
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Those Rpm's were in the water, three men in boat or one man, didn't make a differance 2700-2800 is all it would turn. Haven't checked it out of water, but did think that this wasn't getting what it should.This is a go-devil longtail, no trim, no neutral, just fire it up and shove it in the water, then hold on. It did die on me a couple of times when I throttled down, a little hard to start. Haven't adjusted a governor, where do you find it on 35 vanguard. Not sure if I shouldn't just start checking the basics out like plugs, wires, carb, fuel.
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| Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:49 pm |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Never had a 35 ( but want one!) but you should realize at least the 3600 in the water after tweaking to 4200-4300 out of the water as Owen said. My guess would be a worn prop or motor has lost compression? Let us know what gives?
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:47 am |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Coco wants them running 3600 to 3700 RPM's in the water and about 4000 to 4100 out of water. Basically exactly what Briggs wants them running at
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:26 am |
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blackdawg
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am Posts: 26
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Checked out of water this a.m. ,,only getting 3200. Also checked both sides of exhaust to see if it was hot, maybe not running on one cylinder, both sides were hot. Doesn't act or sound like anything is wrong. Would it come from factory with rpm's set this low, idle rpms are about 950, my past experience says to keep those as low as possible when driving a longtail. I may need to find the governor screw, where is that hidden? Something is out of whack for sure cause this big mama is as easy to drive as my little 23 was 
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:45 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Its a screw in the linkage with a spring on it
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:51 am |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Adjust it til you hit 4200-4300
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:53 am |
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mudxxed
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Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:46 pm Posts: 1398 Location: SE Bama
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Once you hit 4300, your idle may be way too high. If you can't get it to back down, come off the OOW rpms then zip tie your governor spring. You'll have low idle and full rpm to 4300
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:22 am |
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mudxxed
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Or get a mikuni and be done with that lawn mower linkage system
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| Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:22 am |
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blackdawg
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am Posts: 26
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 Re: 35 Vanguard
Thanks, that was all it took, adjusted the governor screw and kaboom. running like a champ. This rig exceeds my expectations for performance with a longtail. Tested with about 750 pds of people and still gets up and scoots. The best part is this 35 is not much harder to drive than a 25 or 23 I previously owned. The right turn at low speeds will always be a hazard with the longtail though 
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