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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Tried out my new rig!!
Took the alweld 1752 with the swomp 35 out tonight. With my brother and I we ran 22 no current. Other than the occasional blowout it the best thing I've ever bought! Rpms were 3950 wot. It would go through anything! Wish I would have bought one sooner!
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:38 pm |
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igotit
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:52 am Posts: 237
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Congrats Ive seen vids of a 35 longtail plowing through what looked like woods. Should be a tank Cant wait to see a vid.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:22 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Good deal! Speeds will increase a little , once motor breaks in. Also if it keeps blowing out, pm one if us. Help you dial in your cav plate . Enjoy.
H Finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:23 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Ok thanks! Motor was used when I bought it. It had 12 hours on it. Friend of mine didn't want to sell it really but said if I bought it he would try a surface drive. How does that trim need to be set? How often should I grease everything? What oil is best for that motor?
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:34 pm |
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Congrats on the new rig. Backwaters website has a few videos you should find helpful. Like Huck said, send one of us a PM if you need help with the Cav plate set up. Have fun.
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_________________ Swomp 35 on an 1848 Alumitec Custom
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:46 am |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
12 hours is still new, . Good buy , that's a deal .
H Finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:33 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I'll check those videos out. Hopefully for the river this summer it will work. Some say it will others say it won't. Where I ran it yesterday was mostly muddy shallow stuff that most boats around here can't go! I did put it in the river too but it's up some. I know that for duck season it will be the ticket! I'm trying to upload some videos to YouTube, once that happens I'll post links..
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:50 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:25 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Here's my brother running it.
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:27 am |
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Walkerdogman85
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:28 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Here's a link to a short clip of first run. https://youtu.be/kK6DE24nud0
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:31 am |
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Walkerdogman85
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:37 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I know I have been posting a lot but I couldn't be happier with this setup!!! https://youtu.be/GTnKSRzj7cs
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:40 am |
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MNwingsetter
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:44 pm Posts: 335
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Congrats... nothing better than the feeling of knowing you made the right choice
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_________________ "There's nothing a duck hunter hates more than another duck hunter."
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:46 am |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Wear that kill switch . And you can get a bolt on grab bar if you desire , makes stand up driving a lot easier , enjoy !!
H Finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:25 am |
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Thanks for puttin that up.
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_________________ Swomp 35 on an 1848 Alumitec Custom
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:17 am |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
X2 on the grab bar, I used to run longtails without one and I don't know how I didn't kill myself.
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:01 pm |
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Smoke
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 1095 Location: SW Michigan
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Damnit boy that boat is waaaay to clean! As mentioned, get yourself a grab bar fabbed up before you get thrown out of your new boat. Its not if its going to happen, its when. Trust me. The red curly kill switch better get some use to. That longtail motor has the leverage to toss your butt right out of the boat. Wear your kill switch tether please.
_________________ 1854 Prodigy Open HDR/Stage 3 mods Prodigy Boats Pro Staff BPS Swamp Staff Member Blackwater Marine LLC.
Quote classic by rangerp: "Red seemed to be enjoying herself, and I assume by the look on her face was about to hit the high-note and throw a locate as she treed the possum."
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:42 pm |
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Enjoy!
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:54 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I plan on making a grab bar soon just not sure on the best way yet? I hope to take it out again this weekend and do some thrashing!!
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:11 pm |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Good deal, good motor, good times! Get you an auto bilge and a floor! You can tweak the throttle after break in to around 4200 rpm and maybe get another 1.5 mph.
_________________ Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:31 am |
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Smoke
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 1095 Location: SW Michigan
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ 1854 Prodigy Open HDR/Stage 3 mods Prodigy Boats Pro Staff BPS Swamp Staff Member Blackwater Marine LLC.
Quote classic by rangerp: "Red seemed to be enjoying herself, and I assume by the look on her face was about to hit the high-note and throw a locate as she treed the possum."
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:38 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I was thinking about using carpet covered plywood temporarily so the wife and kids don't trip, but take it out for duck season. Plus I plan on wiring it up soon too and install bilge pump, battery tray and trolling motor for bow fishing. I do know it doesn't use gas like my outboard jet! I have put 3 hours on it now and the gauge on my 6.5 gallon tank still says full!! I also called Jake at Backwater today and he told me to set my trim stop ball, and that may be why it's blowing out once in a while.
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:35 pm |
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sleepy_sleeper
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Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:00 pm Posts: 50
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Those vids are cool, congrats.
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:31 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Another thing you might consider , add a reverse tension spring to the back throttle linkage going to carb , ( to provide back tension to throttle cable ) then you can add a lever style throttle and accelerate and decelerate like a 4 wheeler or snow mobile . I hate those push mower throttles . All surface drives come with a lever throttle. It's a relativly inexpensive upgrade that will increase your full use , in my opinion. I've asked Arlon numerous times to make that a purchase option from Backwater.
H Finn
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:45 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I don't know I kind of like the throttle that came with it.
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:06 pm |
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:17 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
What different props can I run? Like I said earlier with boat 380, motor 225, me 265, my brother 170, misc. 50, I was able to run 22 MPH. Is there a prop that will help with top end? I am completely satisfied with it as my jet with same load would only run 24. I plan on having some kind of load 90% of the time with duck season being the heaviest loads. Thanks. Hopefully if I don't have to work tomorrow I'm going to take it out!! It's warming up here.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:10 am |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:55 am |
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Huck, I have always had the friction lever type of throttle, since my first GD 18. Like the "set it and forget it" for a while, especially when on plane, or needing full hand on tiller handle while executing more difficult turns or aqua terrain where you bump veggies, mud clumps, and the like. Sometimes the throttle creeps back but I only need a finger to reset to desired speed. I am thinking that the squeeze/ large flapper throttle would offer less hand holding power or requiring more assistance from other hand/arm? I remember driving my friend's 35 MB shorty with that type of throttle lever and it made sense for that motor but I recall having to use my other hand/arm to assist at times. I would like to try it, don't know of anyone in my marsh neighborhood that has one on a longtail. I agree that BW should be able to fab one and offer this option to buyers.
_________________ Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:09 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
The motor seems to have a clicking noise once in a while? Mostly when it blows out. I believe it's coming from U joint but it seems to be tight. What would cause that? You can hear it in YouTube videos.
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:11 am |
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I put a Lever style throttle on mine. I like it but that's just me.
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:17 am |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Always wanted a lever on a LT, got one now but idk if I'll get to try it out... someone buy my boat.
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:57 am |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
Can you post pictures of your throttle lever? I'm thinking about trying to do it
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:57 am |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:21 am |
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:04 am |
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
_________________ Swomp 35 on an 1848 Alumitec Custom
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:36 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I may try to install that throttle. Mabye it's just part of it, the sound... it's more in super shallow stuff too. I'm hoping to go out tomorrow, I'll try to get a video of the sound I'm talking about.
_________________ Alweld 1752 with Backwater 35
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:11 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
I noticed one thing, my motor mount isn't level with the boat. It's in the top hole. It is however level with the top of the transom angle. How should it be?
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:39 pm |
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Walkerdogman85
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Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 am Posts: 92 Location: Coshocton Ohio
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Re: Tried out my new rig!!
My brother got his Backwater kit put together and we took our boats out to a place where we have some mud. Our kids had a blast! If pictures don't belong here please let me know. I take a lot of them especially from now on when we take these boats out!
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Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:30 pm |
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