Author |
Message |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Why?
Why do folks with gator trax boats (for the most part, and esp if it has a mud buddy hanging off the back) want the same price as a new custom build for a 2008-2012 boat motor combo? Just something I've been noticing.
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 5:10 pm |
|
 |
cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
|
 Why?
Because they paid 3x what a new custom build costs and then they only put 8 hours on it in 5 years. 
|
Mon May 09, 2016 5:23 pm |
|
 |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 5:47 pm |
|
 |
flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
|
 Re: Why?
Bc they paid the basspro mark up. They're nice boats but damn. My neighbor paid $21k for a 1744 and he damn sure still thinks it's worth $19k min.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
Mon May 09, 2016 5:51 pm |
|
 |
BassmasterCia
MMT Addict
Joined: Sat May 10, 2014 5:50 pm Posts: 660 Location: Arkansas
|
 Re: Why?
Because if you dont ask a high price there is no chance you'll get it. Probably could be talked down several thousand.
_________________ 15x36 Go Devil Duck Skiff with a Go Devil Longtail.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 6:06 pm |
|
 |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 6:59 pm |
|
 |
brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ Refurbishing a Prodrive
|
Mon May 09, 2016 7:02 pm |
|
 |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Re: Why?
Not saying people with other boat brands don't do it, but it just seems to me that there's a bunch of high dollar used gator trax boats in the classifieds. And I'm throwing off on gator trax, I like their boats. but when new giraffe pussy ain't new anymore, you gotta lower said pussy
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 7:24 pm |
|
 |
cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
|
 Re: Why?
I say don't get too worked up about it, and let em ask whatever they want. If they need to sell it quickly, they'll come off the price. If they don't, then let it sit on the market for two years. If you want to make an offer, make an offer. If it pisses them off, fuck em. If you don't want to make an offer, then don't.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 7:28 pm |
|
 |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Mon May 09, 2016 7:32 pm |
|
 |
cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
|
 Re: Why?
|
Mon May 09, 2016 7:36 pm |
|
 |
b.latiolais
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:06 pm Posts: 314 Location: Bridge City
|
 Re: Why?
It puzzles me even more when they say " I have $30,000 invested in this boat..." Most of the time I'd like to tell them they got screwed when they bought it. Not our fault if they paid too much for it....
|
Mon May 09, 2016 8:22 pm |
|
 |
Randy S
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:03 pm Posts: 313 Location: NELA
|
 Re: Why?
|
Tue May 10, 2016 5:29 am |
|
 |
brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ Refurbishing a Prodrive
|
Tue May 10, 2016 5:33 am |
|
 |
flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
|
 Re: Why?
|
Tue May 10, 2016 6:07 am |
|
 |
Randy S
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:03 pm Posts: 313 Location: NELA
|
 Re: Why?
Was it financed? I think there was a loophole where you didn't have to pay taxes on the boat and motor as long as it was a cash deal. Not sure if that's still in effect.
|
Tue May 10, 2016 6:15 am |
|
 |
brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
|
 Re: Why?
No, doesn't matter if it's financed or not. The only way around it, is to say you paid less for the boat than what you really paid. Just yesterday I have a buddy trade his boat, plus $20,000 cash for another bay boat. It was a person to person deal, and both boats were paid off. All they were worried about, was putting $500 value on the trailers. To keep taxes low. Then, when both of them sent papers to wildlife and fisheries to get registration in their names, they got a letter back saying they owed X amount for taxes or boat. It is now a requirement. http://www.louisianasportsman.com/details.php?id=9549It says "sometimes" but I'm pretty sure it's all the time.
_________________ Refurbishing a Prodrive
|
Tue May 10, 2016 6:44 am |
|
 |
Will
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
|
 Re: Why?
What if it's gifted? You pay zero for it? 
_________________ Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages.
|
Tue May 10, 2016 6:47 am |
|
 |
reharbert
MMT Addict
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:38 am Posts: 606 Location: Beaumont, Texas
|
 Re: Why?
I looked at getting a Gator Trax boat built to my design. The guys were real helpful. The quoted number is what turned me off of them pretty quick. I had Uncle J build a very similar boat, and off the mass produced spectrum of custom boats. The Gator Trax quote was around 8300, and Uncle J was around 5300. Personally, I felt like I got more bang for the buck. I can understand needing to sell something for more when you paid more for it.
_________________ Uncle J - 17 x 48 w/GTR | Bayou Surface Drive heads | Voodoo exhaust | DIY Mikuni carb
|
Tue May 10, 2016 8:11 am |
|
 |
Smoke
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 1095 Location: SW Michigan
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ 1854 Prodigy Open HDR/Stage 3 mods Prodigy Boats Pro Staff BPS Swamp Staff Member Blackwater Marine LLC.
Quote classic by rangerp: "Red seemed to be enjoying herself, and I assume by the look on her face was about to hit the high-note and throw a locate as she treed the possum."
|
Tue May 10, 2016 10:07 am |
|
 |
TPerkins
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
|
 Re: Why?
Ding ding ding, many guys getting boats and putting the smallest down payment thay can.
Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
|
Tue May 10, 2016 11:48 am |
|
 |
brickgw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm Posts: 2032
|
 Re: Why?
|
Tue May 10, 2016 1:51 pm |
|
 |
Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
|
 Re: Why?
First time boat owners that get suckered... Paid way too much money to begin with for all those catch me fuck me options that nobody really needs. Then they realize the boat doesn't perform nearly as well as everyone else's... Doesn't carry a load worth a shit. Cognitive dissonance kicks in, and the search for the next sucker begins.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
_________________ 24x60 Dual Prodrives
|
Tue May 10, 2016 1:54 pm |
|
 |
mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
|
 Re: Why?
Catch me, fuck me lol. Only other time I've heard that was when my dad was describing my brother in laws Payne Stewart golf pants 
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
|
Tue May 10, 2016 3:27 pm |
|
 |
reharbert
MMT Addict
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:38 am Posts: 606 Location: Beaumont, Texas
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ Uncle J - 17 x 48 w/GTR | Bayou Surface Drive heads | Voodoo exhaust | DIY Mikuni carb
|
Wed May 11, 2016 8:04 am |
|
 |
Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
|
 Re: Why?
^ proper usage
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
_________________ 24x60 Dual Prodrives
|
Thu May 12, 2016 6:35 am |
|
 |
cflhunter
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:46 pm Posts: 90
|
 Re: Why?
I've priced gatortrax, gatortail, and prodigy the last month. 1854 cc with efi mud buddy or gtr......all 3 companies have been within a $1000 of each other. Which other boat builders are significantly cheaper???
|
Fri May 13, 2016 4:22 pm |
|
 |
HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
|
 Re: Why?
_________________ I named my boat RIANNA cause it gets beat up all the time
|
Fri May 13, 2016 8:39 pm |
|
 |
cflhunter
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:46 pm Posts: 90
|
 Re: Why?
I'll check em out
|
Sat May 14, 2016 10:31 am |
|
 |
VooDoo Daddy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
|
 Re: Why?
What may seem high, may not be too high when you look at it this way. If someone is looking for a particular brand, and maybe they are open to the idea of used, they may spring for something that seems high used, when the buy new price is way higher. It may actually be a good deal if you look at it that way.
So a boat that cost new 23000, but this used one with the same things in it and motor may look good at 17000 when it only is a few years old and 50 hours. Just all depends.
But what I do not understand is that if there is something you want, and you truly have the money for it,, why not make an offer, sure is not going to hurt anything if it is a serious offer. Then negotiate. If the person does not want to negotiate, no big thing, wait till the next one comes along. I buy a lot of used stuff. I wheel and deal on it. I offer low and see if they will jump on it. If not, I make another offer, if I want it.
If you truly want something, never walk away without throwing a serious offer on the table, even if it is really low. You never know.
_________________ VooDoo--what you get when you leave your Voo outside all night long.
|
Sat May 14, 2016 6:53 pm |
|
 |
|