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I will be buying a new rig this summer for treating invasive wetland grasses. This is what I am looking to do, please advise what you think would be the best setup to accomplish these goals:

1. Spraying. I will have 1-2 people in the boat at a time with a tank sprayer mounted in the boat. It does not have to be a big sprayer (probably up to a 50 gal tank).

2. Cutting. The plan is to design a blade of some sort to drag behind the boat to cut the stems below the waters surface.

The conditions we work in will be between 8-14" of water (possibly deeper early in the season). We do not have much in the way of boat ramps but can back the trailer into a small canal to launch. Ideally the boat would be of manageable size but have a whole heck of a lot of HP.

I was thinking something along the lines of a Lowe Roughneck 14-16 foot with a Mud Buddy 4400. My thought is that a short tail is going to be logistically easier to tow with than a longtail, but I need a lot of power regardless to tow with it.

Any thoughts, experience or help would be much appreciated! Thanks


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Have you considered an Argo? Easily tow something with one of those and even mount a boom type sprayer , which I’m not sure what your spraying but if it’s just shallow ponds you might can get away with a pump sprayer but having a boom would sure be sweet to ensure you’re covering the right areas .. I’m thinking you could do a boom on the front of the boat as well, but you’d need to stay moving in my opinion to be efficient. Only reason I bring up keeping the boat moving is because I know with invasives it could be slow going


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Cutting the stems below the water .. would be nice if you could figure that application out. I’ve personally used one of those weed razors (Company in Florida builds them I think) and cleared large patch of cattails but was a ton of work, although here we are 5 years later and they did grow back. They were cut then sprayed, although we think we could’ve easily just sprayed them and ran over them and still gotten rid of them permanently. I’ve also cleared a small hole that was covered in American lotus with a weed razor, but those can for sure be sprayed with same result minus the dead stems sticking up but that has never bothered a duck.
While typing I’m thinking an inboard mudboat could be a good machine to have.
Which species of grass are you,trying to manage ?


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Watch last season's Swamp People to see how Bruce did it.
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Watch last season's Swamp People to see how Bruce did it.
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interesting, guess I’ll have to start recording the episodes to catch it haha


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BlueShamu wrote:
Watch last season's Swamp People to see how Bruce did it.
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well I fell for that one... thanks for wasting my time lol


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I will be buying a new rig this summer for treating invasive wetland grasses. This is what I am looking to do, please advise what you think would be the best setup to accomplish these goals:

1. Spraying. I will have 1-2 people in the boat at a time with a tank sprayer mounted in the boat. It does not have to be a big sprayer (probably up to a 50 gal tank).

2. Cutting. The plan is to design a blade of some sort to drag behind the boat to cut the stems below the waters surface.

The conditions we work in will be between 8-14" of water (possibly deeper early in the season). We do not have much in the way of boat ramps but can back the trailer into a small canal to launch. Ideally the boat would be of manageable size but have a whole heck of a lot of HP.

I was thinking something along the lines of a Lowe Roughneck 14-16 foot with a Mud Buddy 4400. My thought is that a short tail is going to be logistically easier to tow with than a longtail, but I need a lot of power regardless to tow with it.

Any thoughts, experience or help would be much appreciated! Thanks


This is what we used before we decided to get out of our lease. (no birds and tooooooo much $$$)

we used a Subaru 4cyl mud boat. Our tank was a plastic 55 gallon drum with the plastic screw in plugs (access point to put chemical)
Bought a cheap predator engine (5hp I believe) from harbor freight and installed a pump on it. You had an endlss supply of water out there (5 gallon bucket), so just add you chemicals out there. The 55 gallon tank was set up with a re-circulation line back to tank and an outlet line ( garden hose) which both had valves.

The main reason we used the mud boat instead of our PD is ease of operation. You could sit down and control the valves and just putt putt along. Our PD's were tillers, so it made it a little more challenging. We would block in the spray hose and open the recirc valve. Let the chemicals mix, then pinch back on the recirc just enough so as to not dead head the pump. Open the outlet hose and spray away. When the level got too low, close the outlet line and the recirc line would flow just enough to keep the pump primed. As its recirc back to tank, mix another batch and repeat. Very easy to do and alot less messy. then we would come back and drag all the dead shit out of the way or chop it up and let it sink or float away. You could prob do the same thing if you had a CC rig, place the 55 gallon tank in the middle and roll on. We just happened to have that mudboat, so it was a no brainer.

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Post Re: Setup Ideas for Cutting/Spraying Invasive Marsh Grass
55x8.3=456 pounds

keep that in mind when purchasing.

Personally i would be running an inboard subaru or something similar, dont even want to think about trying to drive a tiller with that much weight in the boat.

I would also be looking into 12v pumps vs gas powered. The diaphragm pumps out now are very efficient, and purpose built for spraying.

Another advantage to the inboard is you can set up spray bars behind it to make it hands free, and will also be much easier to tow your "cutter" with.


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55x8.3=456 pounds

keep that in mind when purchasing.

Personally i would be running an inboard subaru or something similar, dont even want to think about trying to drive a tiller with that much weight in the boat.

I would also be looking into 12v pumps vs gas powered. The diaphragm pumps out now are very efficient, and purpose built for spraying.

Another advantage to the inboard is you can set up spray bars behind it to make it hands free, and will also be much easier to tow your "cutter" with.


The only problem we found with the hands free spray behind, is that you have to go through the shit in order to do that. We found that it was best to go on a breezy day and get upwind. cast it and let the wind take it. Once it starts to die, it will be easier to run through and chop up. Also the gas powered pump will shoot a stream about 40 yards away if needed or can be dialed back, for those hard to reach places.

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