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Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:39 pm ]
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Apart from the situation that happened Saturday. Will some of yall share why you are for or against the construction of a stick blind for the sole purpose of reserving a personal spot the entire season. Should no one be allowed to hunt one of these blinds without permision? Wouldent that make it essentially private. When is it ok so hunt a blind wuthout permision that someone else constructed. An hour before shooting time , After shooting time? Or only after they shoot their daily limit?
Author:  Hookedup711 [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:50 pm ]
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I build blinds, I'm not against anyone hunting my blind if I get beat to it. As long as they don't tear it apart. I think I may build my "stick" blinds a little different than you. It takes about 5-6 hours to construct a stick blind that I put up lol.
Author:  kibb [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:57 pm ]
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X2. Not to mention how far you have to travel sometimes to get vegetation and such.
Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:58 pm ]
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The point I'm trying to make is that these blinds are being constructed for the sole purpose of reserving a spot the entire season. I'm not against the construction of them at all. I personally enjoy building blinds and don't think of it as work. But Try and hunt one of these blinds mid January and you will still be confronted and intimidated until you move or ldwf shows up. That's what I think is wrong. I think Reserving a spot opening weekend is fine but the entire season just because you spend an afternoon or 2 brushing it up is absurd to me.
Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:00 pm ]
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Author:  buck horn [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:08 pm ]
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If it's so close and easy, getting there at 4:02, you had plenty time to go get more material and set up a new spot instead of handleing it like a democrat.
Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:21 pm ]
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Anyone from the other side of the argument want to chime in? I'd like to hear some logic behind why spending an afternoon or 2 brushing up a blind gives you the right to reserve a piece of public property for an entire season.
Author:  Hookedup711 [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:27 pm ]
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It doesn't give you the right to reserve a hunting spot all season. Find a new place to hunt. Do like most lawyers do and get a bad ass lease. You have a pop up blind it shouldn't matter to you what someone builds either way.
Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:36 pm ]
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It's not the construction of the blind that iritates me as much at the feeling of entitlement these guys get once they do build it. At the end of the day it's public property and anyone can hunt it. But when you get confronted and intimidated for hunting a spot that someone claimed it's wrong yet alot of people support it. I want to hear their logic behind it.
Author:  buck horn [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:52 pm ]
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I do agree with the entitlement issue, it is public property, but losing your blind on opening day because someone thinks they need to make a point, just not how I would have handled it myself.
Author:  Hookedup711 [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:54 pm ]
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Author:  Woodiebuster [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:55 pm ]
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I think it should be common courtesy to leave a blind alone opening weekend but after that it's fair game.

I pack my brush in and out everyday. I don't want someone to see my blind and key in on the spot
Author:  rexierou [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:00 pm ]
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Author:  North LA Hunter [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:31 pm ]
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I don't think they should be on federal or state property anyway. Just causes trouble.

As for just public land (not WMA or NWR) it's fair game. A few of the lakes around here have blind permits that you buy and have your blind that nobody can hunt. I think that's the way it should be if you can have blinds.


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Author:  TooTall [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:28 pm ]
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I know if someone is in my blind that I built and spent my money on and have my decoys at that I brushed then I get pissed whenever someone's there and tells me to leave. I have no problem with people hunting my blind but if I pull up there I am going to hunt it. Most of the time I tell them they have all rights to stay and hunt with me because we can all just shoot more then and I've made several good friends doing that. But you are not about to tell me I'm not going to hunt my blind and be a dick because I will pick up everyone of my decoys and all of my brush and you won't have shit to hunt in and after they leave put it all back. They usually get the picture after that

But for the record I don't hunt WMA's much and if I do I pack in and pack out.
Author:  jakehawk9 [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:59 pm ]
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Just make artificial permanent blinds illegal on public land. Like they do here. That way the only blind you can make is out of what you find at your hunting area, and If you can't find the natural stuff to make a blind where you hunt, tough shit, go somewhere else. I bet it wouldn't be as crowded :). I'm against permanent blinds on public land because if you start building crap in the wild where you go hunt. It turns it into a backwoods trailer park with half a Million blinds scattered everywhere making the beautiful places we hunt look like shit. Just my 2 cents

Pretty sure most of MMT is humusexshuls in hiding
Author:  BassmasterCia [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:34 pm ]
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We set em on fire apparently in arkansas. At least thats what the game and fish does.
Author:  Ducaholic [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:00 am ]
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If it's just willow or cane reed stuck in the mud I'm ok with it. It then becomes first come first serve even on opening weekends. If a frame is built with cane reeds/sticks and then brushed and tied together with rope or zip ties then that is a permanent blind and I'm calling LDWF. I've done it before and they have come to remove it. I have seen other folks just run em over or burn em.
Author:  MNGunner [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:39 am ]
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Author:  dguidry [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:52 am ]
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It's pretty clear from the below excerpts from the WMW pamphlet one cannot even construct a blind. Can't even cut brush either. Even if you build something with brush cut outside the WMA you must remove it as it cannot remain overnight. Everyone is violating the regs but the corps of engineers has limited resources to enforce, I'm told. Last year I reported to them the situation of the proliferation of permanent blinds and they promised it would be addressed by destroying them and issuing tickets. This obviously had no effect.

THE FOLLOWING ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED ON INDIAN BAYOU

• The use or possession of alcoholic beverages while on ATVs and/or possession of firearms. • Camping/overnight parking
• Overnight mooring of houseboats / staying overnight in any boat to hold a hunting area
• Use of airboats
• Target practice and skeet shooting
• Possession or installation of trail cameras.
• Cutting trees, limbs, or brush.
• Climbing trees using new or existing nails or spikes.
• Use or possession of any type of trail markers (paint, flagging, bright eyes, etc.)
• Moving deer or hogs with organized drivers, standers and/or noise-making devices
• Unattended decoys or equipment in the field or on the water
• Construction or hunting from a permanent stand or blind
• Leaving tree stands and/or hunting blinds on the property overnight
• Baiting, hunting over bait, or the possession of bait, salt or ingestible attractant while on the project at any time. • Feeding wildlife including alligators
• Hunting or possessing loaded weapons on pipelines during deer gun and primitive weapon hunts
Author:  dguidry [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:07 am ]
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CONTACT INFORMATION
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Port Barre office: (337) 585- 0853
Indian Bayou Ranger Station: (337) 228-1313
St. Landry Parish Sheriff’s Office: (337) 948-6516
St. Martin Parish Sheriff’s Office: (337) 394-3071
LA Department of Wildlife and Fisheries: Operation Game Thief (800) 442-2511
All Other Emergencies: 911
Author:  North LA Hunter [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:20 am ]
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So actually you were violating the law when you hunted the blind?


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Author:  BlackRiverJosh [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:24 am ]
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Wouldn't it be easier to just go out there and have a good time? If every time I went duck hunting and had to deal with a sh*tstorm like this on my return, I think I'd change my behavior out on the water.
Dean, this thing we call duck hunting is supposed to be fun.
I'd also remind you that all the participants in this sport are armed. One day you might run across the wrong guy that has serious anger management issues. It's really supposed to be fun.
Author:  flint87 [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:50 am ]
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We don't have this trouble here on public land. If you build a blind out of sticks and brush it might last you a couple weeks. Bc it's either on a river or lake bank, and the river will flood and wash it away or the lake is gonna come up and flood your blind/ go down and you're too far from the water.
I can see both sides of this issue but I don't have a clear answer to what my stance is.
On one hand it's like, I built the damn blind and would think people would have the decency to stay out of it.
On the other hand, who is anyone to claim a certain spot on public land as theirs and have the only hunting privileges to that area?
Especially if you aren't hunting that spot every single day... Not gonna hurt for some stranger to use your blind but how are they to know if you're going to show up? That's a wasted spot that someone could have killed ducks in that day.
I think if I were to have the issue of wanting to hunt a spot on public and then having someone roll up raising hell that I was in their blind, I would let them have it that morning and I would be back as soon as their hunt was over building my own blind right next to theirs. :lol:


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Author:  goodblasson [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:21 am ]
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The flats for the most part are not part of Indian Bayou, that's the school board property hence the reason for all the blinds. You can hunt that property after 2pm unlike everywhere that surrounds it being Indian Bayou. The flats are for the rookie hunters, there are plenty of ducks to be found in Indian Bayou you just have to scout and work for them. The flats are very convenient but look what kind of trouble you run into. Also, after stirring up all this shit how many teal did you kill? You also stated in the past that wlf would not take a stance on how to handle these problems until the school board made a final decision and told them how to police the area. You contradict yourself all the time, keep the facts straight.
Author:  goodblasson [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:26 am ]
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And hunting a blind someone else built on opening weekend is a dick move and pretty low life. You even have a popup boat blind, use it and avoid all this trouble you create. And for the record I hope they remove all the perm blinds out that area and enforce it, make it first come first serve like Indian Bayou WMA.
Author:  dguidry [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:26 am ]
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Author:  Frog [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:54 am ]
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:evil: I think the biggest badass of the swamp can hunt any blind he wants. If you can whoop him you get the blind! Shit who needs respect? Just whoop their ass! If someone is in your blind, whoop their ass! You want another guys blind whoop his ass and throw his ass out. :twisted:
:lol:
Author:  jakehawk9 [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:02 pm ]
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Author:  Gameover [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:38 pm ]
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i believe its a first come first serve on public land. i usually build 3 blinds a year to have a back up plan if someone is in one. but come late season i go to where birds are. if im scouting and find birds holding in an area and there is already a blind built (which most time isnt hardly brushed or dead brush), i go cut a load of brush and bring in with me next morning and hunt.
if you cant take that someone got in your blind on public land and you have to resort to a plan B, go get a lease.
Author:  BlackRiverJosh [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:02 pm ]
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Author:  MNGunner [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:05 pm ]
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Author:  MNGunner [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:15 pm ]
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These are our rules and in general work pretty well (simple and clear)

• No person may erect a blind in public waters or on public land more than one hour
before the open season for waterfowl.
• Any blind on public land or in public waters when not in use is considered public and
not the property of the person who constructed it. Any use of threat or force against
another person to gain possession of a blind is unlawful.
• Hunters may use aquatic emergent plants, such as cattails and bulrushes, cut above the
waterline, for building blinds.
No person may place decoys on public lands or in public waters more than two hours
before legal shooting hours for waterfowl.
• No person may leave decoys on public waters between sunset and two hours before
legal shooting hours or leave decoys unattended during other times for more than
three consecutive hours, except decoys may be left in waters adjacent to private land
under control of the hunter where there is not sufficient natural vegetation growing in
the water to partially conceal a hunter. A person may not leave decoys in public waters
between sunset and one hour before shooting hours if the decoys constitute a navigational
hazard.
Author:  dguidry [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:10 pm ]
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Author:  MNGunner [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:36 pm ]
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Author:  CAJUN OUTLAW [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:44 pm ]
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When u hunt somebodys blind opening morning...u deserve an ass kicking.
unless its not occupied. If u early and the builder shows up, you should shear it or get out. If its that good of a spot, let the builder shoot his limit then hunt it after he leaves.
common fukkin sense people!
Author:  mizzippi jb [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:55 am ]
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Author:  MNGunner [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:47 am ]
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Author:  Puddler45 [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:47 am ]
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Typically we will arrive at our spot at least 6 hours before shooting time to reserve our spot for opening day. During the season its 2-1/2 unless im hunting a spot where no one else really hunts then its an hour to get set and hunt. If you think you can build a blind and sleep in and still get your spot tough shit its public land. first come first serve. Up here people like to use a white flag with their name on it to reserve their spot because we dont have many permanent blind on public land because they can only be constructed at a certain point and must be taken down at the end of the season. For those that put their white flag out thinking they can show up right before decoy setting time can eat a bag of dicks I throw their flag in the cattails
Author:  JD145 [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:46 am ]
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