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I have a question for the group and need some advice.
I'm 72 and last year bought a mud boat 14x48 Jon 6.5 Predator with stage one(longtail)
I get hung up on the sand bars where the water is 4-6" deep,I'm thinking of going to a surface drive,Twister or something on that order.
Would this be any better or still have the same problem?
Thank you


Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:04 pm
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Twister kits are garbage. Put gator glide on your hull and look for some More HP. I'd either go with an 18hp copperhead surface drive or do a swamp runner kit with the 420cc predator and stage 1 mods. 6.5hp and stage one is really only 8-9hp and isn't going to push through anything.


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Like stated, Add Gator Glide,
and get a Copperhead to keep it light.
anything from 10hp-23hp will be good for that boat.

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:13 pm
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I'd like to thank the 2 members that replied to my post for help/advice.
MudMotors has a kit that I can change my longTail to a surface drive.
I value your opions. And if I was rich I'd purchase a MudBuddy or Go Devil.
Thanks again in-advance


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wrongway wrote:
I'd like to thank the 2 members that replied to my post for help/advice.
MudMotors has a kit that I can change my longTail to a surface drive.
I value your opions. And if I was rich I'd purchase a MudBuddy or Go Devil.
Thanks again in-advance



It is not expensive at all to get a used motor.
Like I said, copperhead is a good option to keep it light.
If you buy a cheap kit, chances are you will be spending your money sooner rather than later on a brand name motor.
Cheap is not good, and good is not cheap in the mud motor world

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^ no joke. I bought a kit for a 6.5ho longtail, then the 420cc longtail, then put stage one upgrades, then a 35hp surface drive and now stage 3 mods on that surface drive. Each time I bought the kit (at a new cost) and motor, I realized I could have gotten a used one Of the major manufacturers that carry their individual reputations.

Just know what the limitations of your motor are. A long tail under 25hp is really just a shallow water motor. You will get through weeds with it but you aren't pushing mud and certainly not sand. Same goes for a surface drive under 18hp.

There are a few pages on Facebook that have all sorts of used mud motors. You may want to take a look on there for some inventory and pricing options.


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I've seen no less than four 16hp or higher longtails for sale on this forum for less than $1500 since January. One went for 800 or less (his asking was 800, but may have sold it for less). The "if I was rich I'd get a ______" just makes some of us laugh. I got my 35hp surface drive for 3500, and could've had it back stock for another 500 or less if I found some good used parts. That's less than half what it would cost new. The same types of deals exist for smaller hp motors. With a little patience and diligence, you can find something that will hold up and serve you better than those kits. That being said, budget, expectations, and need drive what you should get. Gator glide will help with those sandbars, but 6.5 hp isn't really enough at that depth on that boat.

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Russ wrote:
I've seen no less than four 16hp or higher longtails for sale on this forum for less than $1500 since January. One went for 800 or less (his asking was 800, but may have sold it for less). The "if I was rich I'd get a ______" just makes some of us laugh. I got my 35hp surface drive for 3500, and could've had it back stock for another 500 or less if I found some good used parts. That's less than half what it would cost new. The same types of deals exist for smaller hp motors. With a little patience and diligence, you can find something that will hold up and serve you better than those kits. That being said, budget, expectations, and need drive what you should get. Gator glide will help with those sandbars, but 6.5 hp isn't really enough at that depth on that boat.

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From what everyone been telling me is just get a bigger motor,so I'm looking at a 13-22hp motor and then put frog spit or gator glide on the bottom. Better?


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Yeap,
I still say to find a used copperhead.
That will push your bought great and be really light.

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^nailed it.

used copperhead, Gator glide (just bc I have used it, personally spoke to owner for assistance, and has all positive reviews) and you will be ready to roll!


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That What I'm looking for a bigger motor 13hp or a little more don't want to add to much weight to it.


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wrongway wrote:
I have a question for the group and need some advice.
I'm 72 and last year bought a mud boat 14x48 Jon 6.5 Predator with stage one(longtail)
I get hung up on the sand bars where the water is 4-6" deep,I'm thinking of going to a surface drive,Twister or something on that order.
Would this be any better or still have the same problem?
Thank you



Horsepower is not always the answer.

You can't get thrust in shallow water over sand when you are sitting on bottom. Sure
on plane at faster speeds you can skip over a small sand bar but the key is to draft
shallow even at rest.

A bigger and wider hull like 16x60 will float shallower and draft less with a heavier MM.

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