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Delta1389
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Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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Heeling "issue"
I find it more of a pain than anything else when training and in the field, my dog wants to run into my leg and step on my foot when returning to heel. She just has so much drive in everything she does there is no slow returning to heel. Full out run all the time and she doesn't slow down in time to keep from running into me. Its particularly irritating when Im barefoot and working with her because she steps all over my foot. Anyone have a fix for my particular little problem?
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:11 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Knee to the face a couple times
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:22 pm |
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Pete14
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm Posts: 445 Location: Southern Illinois
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Re: Heeling "issue"
My pup did it up until about 6 months. When she got within 5 or so feet of me I would jump in her path so she had to take a wider swing. I have her retrieve to my left side and heel. I knocked her ass over twice while jumping in,front of her and that's all it took. She now at 3 years old, takes a little wider swing than normal, but my feet and knees don't take any abuse any more.
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:24 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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Re: Heeling "issue"
I've had the above mentioned work on most dogs. There are a few that just don't care. Usually bug male labs. Had one that would run into ya n matter how hard you'd hit him back with a knee in the face er anything. He'd also charge so hard at the dummy he'd have a bloody mouth every time. He just didn't care.
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:30 pm |
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Delta1389
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Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Ive tried kneeing her off, didn't work. Maybe I need to do it harder lol. She ain't getting the hint. I'll have to try jumping at her too.
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:31 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Really u can go back to heal from remote position and few good smacks on the inside and her ass will teach her to start swinging her ass around on the way back and then after long line u can just set whip down in front of u as she returns she will remember
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:39 pm |
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Pete14
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Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm Posts: 445 Location: Southern Illinois
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Re: Heeling "issue"
If your knee gets sore or it doesn't work, try standing behind an object (metal trash can) waist high. Make her go around the object then heel.
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Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:42 pm |
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bluesky2012
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Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:19 am Posts: 981
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Re: Heeling "issue"
I'd recommend either commanding a remote front sit about 5 feet forward of you, dog sits, then command here/heel. Should teach the dog to slow on the approach. Also you can try standing with a fence, tree, etc behind you. It will also teach the dog to slow up as it comes to you and it'll be more careful/gentle
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:17 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:33 pm Posts: 1363 Location: Friggin cold up here
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Re: Heeling "issue"
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:38 am |
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Over the LINE
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Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:22 am Posts: 535 Location: New Orleans
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Re: Heeling "issue"
What bluesky said^^^^^
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:34 am |
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Claycountycracka
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Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:06 am Posts: 126 Location: SE LA
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Re: Heeling "issue"
you could also use the platforms. dokken makes some. make her heel onto the plastic platform and make sure its set up far enough away from you. the remote sit before she gets to you will work too
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:39 am |
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bluesky2012
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Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:19 am Posts: 981
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Platforms turn into a crutch in the long run because you later have to reteach the same issue without the platform. Just do it right the first time.
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:50 am |
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Hookedup711
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Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:19 pm Posts: 387
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Place you back to a wall n try that.
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KwickLabs
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Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:59 pm Posts: 195
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Re: Heeling "issue"
It is fairly obvious there two techniques to train a young dog. One involves a "hammer" and making a dog do "things". The other requires showing the dog what is expected and enforcing it.
In the long run, becoming a teacher is more effective.
Remote sit, here, heel as a young pup....extend distance.
Here is a young dog doing a lining drill. He's been trained to be "two-sided". The cues for which side to heel on, delivering properly and working under control are several of the goals besides just lining.
note: He is wearing an e-collar and I'm carrying a heeling stick. The dog was corrected for "sloppy" work a few times. The expectations were taught first......and corrections are clearly meant to enforce the "taught" standards.
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KJH
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:09 pm Posts: 520 Location: Nebraska
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Re: Heeling
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Hookedup711
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Re: Heeling "issue"
Put your back to a wall where he can't run around you.
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