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Post Looking for new pup
I'm in the market for a new pup after losing my black lab female last year. I have been doing a lot of research on boykins. I am leaning towards them because I want something small that I can keep with me in my camper while I'm on the road. Does anyone here have any experience with them? I am looking for some feedback as to how they handle cold water, their temperament, and how trainable they are compared to a lab. Thanks for any feedback.

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Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:58 am
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Check out american water spainels, they were breed for duck hunting. I got mine from endless limit water spainels in Louisville ky. Stand up guys whom I spent many a hour talking to on the phone.

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Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:24 am
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Similar dogs. Both will handle the cold equally, and be really good hunting dogs. Neither as good in the cold as a big lab or chessie.


Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:07 pm
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I've trained with and around quite a few boykins with my buddy who runs a kennel. I never saw a Boykin that impressed me. I've seen plenty of 45lb labs that are much more trainable and sill small.

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Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:43 pm
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I had a boykin for 14 years or so.........solid retriever............NOT a lab.........meaning she was slower and not as flashy with her water entrance............just remember do not TRAIN a EDUCATE a boykin.........

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Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:45 pm
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Get a small lab and be done!
I love my lab, and will be breeding her this next heat cycle.
Tried to breed her on the last one, and the stud had some serious issues and it just didn't work out.

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Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:42 am
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If you decide to get a lab, I think there may be a couple that aren't spoken for.

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Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:04 pm
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I have my first boykin, around 9 months old now, so I do not have much experience with them. This is also the first retriever of mine that I have trained. She had three started passes right at 7 months (failed her first one because I entered her before she was force fetched). I have been more than pleased to say the least. I made sure I did plenty of research on backgrounds and got one from very good backgrounds (I definitely paid the price for her). I chose a boykin for the size mainly. She does seem to get quite a bit colder much easier. I live in Kentucky and she has hunted once this year with no problem. But I am more than pleased with going this direction and will probably continue down the boykin line.

Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pm
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I would stick with a small lab. Plenty of high quality breedings producing 50 pound labs.

Mine unfortunately is a 93 pound 2 year old, that the vet said was underweight. However I knew he would be @80lbs from the get go. It was not a stellar breeding with only grandparents being MH, but my wife saw them and had to have one. He has turned out to be a bird retrieving machine. I might even run him in hunt tests. Also going to start guiding at a plantation and use him as a flush/retrieve dog. In the past I only used a lab for ducks and dove. In my old age I have found them to be the "do all" retriever. Ducks, pigeon, dove, snipe drive, partridge drive, quail flush/retrieve, pheasant tower and drive shoots.

I really wanted a Boykin but several pro trainers talked me out of it. They mentioned how Boykins are super sensitive, some are not good with small children, have a tendency to react quickly with a bite, etc.

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