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grizzon30's
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Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:08 pm Posts: 187
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 GTR Reverse not very effective
So the reverse on my gator tail does not work very well. By that I mean, it simply does not stop the boats forward momentum nor does it pull fast in reverse at all. We went frogging saturday night, and using reverse was about useless. I was just idling and when I needed to stop of backup for a frog it was about impossible. It works a little better when trimmed all the way down, but thats it, just a little better. Is there anything I can do? Different prop, cavitation plate, somethin?
_________________ 35 GTR with marshmellow on 1854 Gator Tail Boat.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:20 am |
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quackconsumer
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 Re: GTR Reverse not very effective
Tappered transom and a hunt deck. Mine backs up great and no water in da boat. Also you will see da reverse work better in da thicker stuff than in open water. Remeber it's a mudmotor not an outboard.
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take'emgator
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:54 am |
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grizzon30's
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 Re: GTR Reverse not very effective
well mine don't stop on a dime when trimmed down and romped on. I don't have the huntdeck but I'm not too worried about water in the boat, I'll bilge that shite out after i grab that damn frog. I'm not expecting it to be an outboard either, I just want it to stop and back up fairly well.
_________________ 35 GTR with marshmellow on 1854 Gator Tail Boat.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:44 am |
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slambin
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:21 pm Posts: 1262 Location: St. Francisville, LA
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sounds like you just need more stick time. mine scoots pretty good in reverse. make sure your not letting the calipers slip when you put it in reverse.
_________________ 2060 CC 3/4 Gator-tail 1/4 Brother Breaux Boat /35GTR Cowboy thought- a thong on a woman is like a barbed wire fence. It protects the property but doesnt obstruct the view.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:54 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:43 pm |
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: GTR Reverse not very effective
When i am reversing in open water i squeeze the handle till i can't squeeze it no more and away i go, but you'll find yourself sometimes letting up on the handle therefore letting the caliper slip on the brake pads and you won't get the full effect. So when reversing make sure you are getting down on that handle to get the full effect of the GTR reverse.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:48 pm |
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BROOKS
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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Yeah ... Like thay say ..... be shore yore smashin' that lever purdy hard. And also remember .... when in clear water .... the more wieght you have in yore boat makes alot of difference as well .. in mines rig anyway it do. Ifin' you Froggin' .... I would thank you would be in shallow or up on some grass .... so you should be gittin' a bite of somethin'. Sometimes I smash that lever real hard and goes back and forth on the tiller and you'll git a hold on somethin' and that biss will just run backwards !!!! Hey Paul ~ Ifin' you gots some more of them CaddoFunRun T-Shirts left over ..... send one to the StumpGrinders !!!!!!! 
_________________ Git a Gator-Tail or ride in mines wake ...... MtrFact !!!!! '05 Model .... Still Number One on the Water !!!!
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:17 pm |
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:31 pm |
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mogumbo
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:56 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:10 pm |
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JIMMY W
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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Mine will throw you down when you hit the instant reverse!!!Huntdeck and no water in boat  And I don't have to jack it off to go to reverse 
_________________ 17/54 GT EXTREME Center Console, Huntdeck w/ GTR 35
Hoyt Mods and some other goodies
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:11 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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Mine worked pretty good backing up to 4 stuck pd in the floats this weekend in caddo!!Crews couldn't even look!! Ben you feel better know or is the corple tunnel kicked in from all that typing LOL!! 
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:23 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:32 pm |
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cmelvin
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_________________ To be successful, you must decide exactly what you want to accomplish, then resolve to pay the price to get it.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:33 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:34 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:39 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:59 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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oops DP... got all excited I guess. lol
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:01 pm |
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grizzon30's
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_________________ 35 GTR with marshmellow on 1854 Gator Tail Boat.
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:30 am |
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stumpgrinder
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LOL... actually I only typed it once. The rest is just mad copy & paste skills. lol You need to learn to laugh at shit if you gonna hang around here dude.... everyone else thought is was funny but you. lol 
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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BROOKS
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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_________________ Git a Gator-Tail or ride in mines wake ...... MtrFact !!!!! '05 Model .... Still Number One on the Water !!!!
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CAJUN OUTLAW
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 2577
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all new on here: 1.Never Fork with stumpy! 2.Always be nice to Mr Brooks. carry on............
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slambin
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:21 pm Posts: 1262 Location: St. Francisville, LA
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_________________ 2060 CC 3/4 Gator-tail 1/4 Brother Breaux Boat /35GTR Cowboy thought- a thong on a woman is like a barbed wire fence. It protects the property but doesnt obstruct the view.
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grizzon30's
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_________________ 35 GTR with marshmellow on 1854 Gator Tail Boat.
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:19 am |
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BROOKS
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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Takes'emgators is exactly rite !!!!! You can take yore cover off yore transmission with them two nuts and watch it engage. It's a real simple thang so you shouldn't have no problem seein' it and puttin' the figure ifin' it's workin' proper. Ifin' that disc stops ... and stops hard .... it's probly workin' proper !!!!
_________________ Git a Gator-Tail or ride in mines wake ...... MtrFact !!!!! '05 Model .... Still Number One on the Water !!!!
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:24 pm |
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slambin
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:21 pm Posts: 1262 Location: St. Francisville, LA
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_________________ 2060 CC 3/4 Gator-tail 1/4 Brother Breaux Boat /35GTR Cowboy thought- a thong on a woman is like a barbed wire fence. It protects the property but doesnt obstruct the view.
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:45 pm |
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Caleb W.
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Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:29 pm Posts: 136
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 Re: GTR Reverse not very effective
If hes wanting to stop it suddenly, I dont think cranking a PD lower unit around is the answer?
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:03 pm |
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take'emgator
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just spend more time in the boat you'll figure out the Qwerks, i can stop mine at about 10mph pretty quickly.  Feathering the throttle has alot to do with it, and yes a prodrive has a hell of a backward force but i'm willing to bet that 10 ft. from the dock or your stopping point you ain't going to ratchet that thing fast enough to stop your forward momentum. Not being sour cause i have ridden in both but REALITY don't lie.
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stumpgrinder
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_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:24 pm |
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take'emgator
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:27 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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$1500 to add it on. If ur buyin a new motor it's $1000 more.
I used to say it wasn't worth it too, but you won't catch me without it now.
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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take'emgator
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stumpgrinder
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No, but still not FPR either. lol
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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take'emgator
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stumpgrinder
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And just so nobody gets the wrong idea... I'm not sayin that hydro-reverse only costs $1000. What I'm sayin is that everyone looks at it as a $1500 option, but if you were getting reverse anyways then you were already spendin $475 of that on the manual reverse. An upgrade to hydro would cost another $1025. What sucks for folks who already have da manual reverse is that they would have to fork out $1500 for the upgrade. Anywho, I ain't tryin to jack dis thread into a PD infomercial. Just wanted to clear some things up since it was referenced. I'm sure with sum more stick time grizz will get the hang of it.... or he'll repeat those words enough to believe it. lol 
_________________ I'm your Huckleberry......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVe3xG-wos
I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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UNCLE-J
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Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 10388 Location: S-Ville, LA
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FPR Rocks !!!
Just Sayin
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hotdognjo
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Ben,
Are u saying they want 1500 to upgrade from manual to hydro FPR?
Thanks
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take'emgator
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