so i been reading alot of old post and i can't find not one post where someone talked bad about the xtreme hull.Could this be true the one hull that does it all? I hope so cause about to order one very soon.

no, they suck...

well can you give me a lil more detail on why you think they suck

Not a bad hull, I ve rode in one a couple times and there's not one reason that would make me switch to one.

Buddy of mine runs one, he loves it, they turn on a dime and are pretty good in mudd

everyone talks about how good they turn but only a few talk about them being in the mudd and they all say thats good also.

You won't be diappointed if you buy one, i'll just put it that way

they turn like a SOB in places i can't!

If u want a boat that turns great
Performs n mud great
Get an xtreme

I find they 1-2mph slower tho

I have an extreme hull and love it. Turns well in tight winding bayous. I can run them wot. But doent quite turn as well as a round chine, but I can still run the same bayous wide open. It handles mudflats extremely well. I think the steps act like keels to help steer in straight mud. My only concern is in about an inch or so of water. It slides just as bad as a square chine. Granted my round chine was like a canoe,38" boat, it could still be turned in an inch or so of water. In that shallow of water with the extreme u need to leave yourself plenty of throttle so u can turn.

But over all I don't think there is a better hull out there.

True that, turnin n mud: it will put u on the bank. Not always but u have to watch it. I love mine

They all have a learning curve when it comes to a slick bottom, you just have to get one and learn how to drive it, then it'll be second nature to you

I'm really like all the good reviews about this boat so i think i'm going with the xtreme hull now to figure out if i want the 18X54 or 17X54. Thanks for all the help guys.

Good choice!!

x2......i would check out the 1854, the extra space is nice and the performance difference isnt gonna be significant enough between the 2 to make you want the smaller one.

I saw on Gator Tails web site a picture of a 17x52 but when you look on the specs and standard features page they only have them listed for a 54" and 60" widths. Will they still build a 17x52 or any other size?

Or just get the boat that they are trying to run against, the original Phowler Series Extreme, the one that turns like a v hull and does not slide in the mud.

1752 is no longer in production

Remember when u order a 54 inch bottom with the xtreme hull that the bottom won't be 54 inches wide. Prolly be around 48 or in the general area. Maybe someone with a 54 can chime in, but my 1860 only measured around 53 or 54. If u call kyle at gatortail he can give you all the specs. They do turn on a dime. I don't run mud so I can't tell u how they do in it, but as far as river and lake , they are a great boat.

Are you guys talking about xtreme boats that are built in bonifay fl? http://www.xtremeindustries.com/?

No they are from LA the ones that they are talking about, built by Gator-Tail

I ordered the 1854 xtreme series the bottom measures 52". I think they start with a 54" bottom then once they put the bends in that makes it 52".

If i ordered a 54 and it came out to be 52 i'm cool with that. I'm still liking all the post about this boat i'll be running more open water than mud or veggies but don't get it twisted if i want on the other side of something it's either gonna blow or go. Thats my motto and i'm sticking to it. Thanks for all the post guy's some real helpful stuff.

Well my 1860 was around those same measurements.

The inside of the boat will measure 54 the true bottom of the boat will measure 52 I think lol