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browndog1
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Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:52 pm Posts: 53
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 Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Has anyone used O/A and a torch to do minor boat work? Like add pods or weld on a grab bar etc? It seems like it would be viable but from what I've seen on here most people use a TIG welder. Just curious if this would work as it's much cheaper than a TIG.
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:37 pm |
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Use a mig welder on aluminum. Tig works, but u get a more brittle weld. U can also use stick rods if u aren't concerned wif the way it looks. Never heard of O/A welding aluminum.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:19 pm |
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locked-up
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Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:14 pm Posts: 76 Location: Wyoming
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
You cannot do it oxy welding adds carbon from the flame and would cause bad things to the aluminum. Don't try it you will regret it. Get ya a small tig.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:02 pm |
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Backwater killer
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 47
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
I am welder by trade Tig is the only way to go. It is alot stronger is way cleaner than stick. You can use a Mig you need a spool gun. The wire is to solft to go through the lead.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:19 pm |
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Every boat builder I know of builds boat with mig. Tig welds are much harder and more brittle. There is a reason why Gravois, Hankos, Scully, and J use mig guns.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:00 pm |
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instagator911
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:36 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Behind the hood next 2 da bright light! SETX
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:08 pm |
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SCmudder7071
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Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:10 pm Posts: 3024
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Tried it with my lil creek/pond boat. Ruint it. Had to cut aluminum pieces out of stock and welded with a mig. Been holding up great. Tig will work but as previously stated very brittle
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:29 pm |
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browndog1
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Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:52 pm Posts: 53
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
I was talking about something like in this YouTube video http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri= ... F1Srs_e1AwIt claims the welds are really strong but I gueess I can see how it would be difficult with a boat. 
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:58 pm |
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meterman3
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
tig is a better weld reason is u control the heat the area and the filler , but it takes a long time , boat builders use a mig for production it is way faster and less costly ,
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:46 pm |
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pooldoo73
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Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 886 Location: Plaquemine
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Anyone here ever heard of pulse arc? Used to control heat issues with mig welding. Not needed wif boats due to the ice cream(cold) setting that is used on most boats. Wut factory boats have the bottoms Tig welded? It's a recipe for disaster.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:51 pm |
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riverratdm84
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Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:15 pm Posts: 701 Location: pella, ia
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
We have miller pulse welders at work but thats 4 steel dont know how it would work on aluminum. It helps reduce splatter an controls arc length.
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:25 pm |
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Backwater killer
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 47
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Welding with a Mig and a Tig are the same concept. You are welding with aluminum wire with both. They both use argon and the only way that a Tig would get brittle is if the boat aluminum is old or you are using the wrong wire like T5 or 6 but I dout that. Most people build with because they are faster thats the only reason. If the aluminum is old mig or Tig it will have a weak weld.
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:11 am |
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TXSHOCKWAVE
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:51 pm Posts: 295 Location: Karankawa Lake TX
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:24 am |
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lil_catdaddy
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Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 300
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:46 am |
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russellm454
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Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:23 pm Posts: 216
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
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X2
Tig is by far superior on almost any metal being welded.[/quote]
Tig also makes for a better looking weld.
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:05 am |
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Jokey
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:39 pm Posts: 84
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
do a lot of research before u start messing up a nice rig, u will if u dont know what ur doin
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:57 am |
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Sko
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Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:41 am Posts: 769
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 Oxy/acetylene welding boat
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Sko
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Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:41 am Posts: 769
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 Oxy/acetylene welding boat
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:07 pm |
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meterman3
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 1407
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
"Do you weld alum for a job or are you just repeating what you were told? Tig is way more precise it does not have anywhere near the porosity of a mig weld. If mig is so much stronger then why are all the anodized alum t-tops, leaning post, and cooler racks tiged out? The reason the pulse mig works well is b/c is lessen the actual heat on the weld area. Which lessens warpage. The only reason all boat mfg use mig is b/c of speed. We have the xr gun at my shop and it just boils down to speed.
I have a buddy that builds all kinds of specalized parts for off shore oil. When they need a very precise part Guess what it is tiged out." quote from texshockwave
well put james x2
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:44 pm |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
those 350 P's are the shit youre right but dont let that smart machine think it knows everything. There are plenty of times you really need to adust the stickout and other perameters to get the best bead.
A good looking bead doesnt always mean a quality weld.
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:48 pm |
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
oh and whoever you are that said dont use TIG on aluminum...you're a dumbass
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Oxy/acetylene welding boat
Man...I was really looking forward to the "after" pictures if this was attempted. Thanks a lot guys.
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:57 pm |
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instagator911
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Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:36 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Behind the hood next 2 da bright light! SETX
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