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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 robin 25 efi mods............................
just found this and wanted to get some feed back.... turbo charging a mud motor..... http://www.ecotrons.com/Small_Engine_RH ... arger.html
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1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
I'm sure it would work. That Subaru engine is built very strong, including a forged steel crank. The naturally aspirated, 720 cc robin advertises 28hp with EFI. With the turbo it should be easy to get well over 40hp, depending on how high you crank the boost. That's the good news. The bad news is I don't know anyone that makes a plug-and-play kit for the conversion. Once you have the turbo it must be mounted and connected to the intake and exhaust. It will probably have to be connected to the engines oil system, also. If you can do a little TIG welding that shouldn't be difficult. The Robin is an "open loop" injection system so you will have to change to larger injectors and probably remap the ECU. Do you know if the computer software is available to tinker with the Robin ECU? I would like to see you go for it. Your experience might help me if I turbo the 29 Kohler (749cc EFI) or my home built EFI Briggs. In my opinion the Robin lower end and block is stronger than either the Kohler or Briggs, but displacement tops out at 720cc and the Kohler and Briggs big blocks are almost one liter. Displacement provides torque and forced induction is like adding displacement. I have worked with Ecotrons on my EFI Briggs project and have been pleased with both quality and customer service.
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brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
That would be awesome!
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BrackIV
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Joined: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:58 pm Posts: 641 Location: SETX
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Jeff, send your block to alaska and let him do it for you! Seems like he could probably make it work, from what i've seen!
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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_________________ so many rivers, so little time
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
I've been looking at the engine and checking out some of the turbo bikes and carts.....the hardest part looks to be plumbing and brackets....I haven't even looked into the ecu and compatibility but ecotron sells a turbo ready efi system........this is all really beyond me as far as making it work, but it is a possibility for these engines......
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1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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lucecr
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:26 am Posts: 1629
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Damn what did we say last time we both had an idea like this..... Oh yea!! I'll do it if you do. 
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
How much boost that thing capable of? A turbo MM would be legit...spool the turbo up some then flip the clutch and nail it prolly get some mud moving.
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Safely, 5-7 lbs......
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Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Was really hoping cody would come up with something for the 25, sounded like he was thinking about it. Now he's closed shop. Maybe Calen will come up with some modding ideas.
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
I think that if I could spec out everything, this would be the mother of all mods...and i think that the $-hp would be the best value out there.......
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Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Well do it, test it on yours, and then install on mine and luce's. Thx in advance!:grin:
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_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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lucecr
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:26 am Posts: 1629
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Me and Jay already have mod plans in works. If I knew this would work I'd try it too.
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dillakilla12 wrote:
I just passed out bc of the blood rush to my penis! Where the fugg can I get a transom like that!?
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mizzippi jb
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Well you forkers better keep me in the loop. I wanna see what mine is fully capable of.
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_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
It will work, its just being able to apply it to the Subaru....I don't think im tech enough to do it by myself..... it also looks like you would have to change to the turbo ready efi system ecotron sells....
sent by carrier pigeon...don't shoot it!!!!
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
I think that's gonna end up being the limiting factor on mods on the 25s, the EFI. Somebody needs to figure out a way to tune that system and get more out of it first things first. That way you open the door to being able to play with airflow and compression.
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Replace subaru efi with ecotrons turbo ready efi.....it has a programmable ecu.
sent by carrier pigeon...don't shoot it!!!!
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
_________________ so many rivers, so little time
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Makes you wonder what these blocks will handle as far as boost goes. A turbo small engine would have a ridiculous cool factor. Did po po mud duck ever hook his up all the way? I know it looked like he half ass mounted it idk if he ever finished though. Be hard to figure out where to put everything on a MM frame
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
just got to make sure you get the air fuel right or you'll easlily burn one up, 6K dollar motor ain't worth nothing if you get something wrong and burn it up.
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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_________________ so many rivers, so little time
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Did po po ever finish the plumbing? Looks like the exhaust is hooked up but not the intake.....
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_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
Too many hp......they wanted to keep it refuge legal.
sent by carrier pigeon...don't shoot it!!!!
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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eljefe
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: robin 25 efi mods............................
And of I get turbo, torque will be produced.
sent by carrier pigeon...don't shoot it!!!!
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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50fps
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