Just thought y'all would wanna know that...

This is the saddest fuc## thing I have ever heard. Nothing like letting the fox watch the chicken coop. Why can't we have something sacred with out the fags bitchen

I guess I'll never understand how someone could enjoy a dick in their ass.

They now allow openly gay boys......my boys wont be camping with queers. My oldest dropped out a couple months ago and im sure we will fade it out with my youngest. Rip bsa. What a good tradition you had.

I can guarantee the day I have a son he will never be in the boy scouts now. I'm notletting my bo6y be watched by a fucking gay dude. Fuck that. Why can't the quy fuckers just go be. Gay away from all the normal people. Yet again another sad day for the red white and blue

When they start losing money they mighty re-think that decision. I could see them start getting government hand outs when that happens.

They still ban gay scout leaders.....they now allow for open gayness among boys. Im sure there will be all gay troops eventually. Its sad.

So how does a kid at a young age know he's gay. Wow

Sad sad day !!!

So sad..there is absolutely nothing positive about this decision..but on a lighter note maybe they will start selling Girl Scout cookies..those things are better than crack..and I am in no way trying to side with their decision or agreeing with it. I think it is absolutely unacceptable to put our young boys who need leadership in a program that promotes this kind of shit..

I once thought the gays would thin out due to no breeding but dam its getting worse.

My church had a boy scout program. They are now dropping it, and starting up with a similar program, but one that did not cave to the political correctness.


Our Military caved, and just this year male vs. male sex assaults now outnumber assaults against women. I prefer to have no sexual assaults at all, but it shows you where we are heading.

I do not understand the logic (or lack their off), for the boy scouts to have gay scouts, but not scout masters. So if a kid is homosexual and goes from cub scout to Eagle Scout, becomes an adult, he is not able to be a scout leader. That would be a double standard. Homosexuality is wicked for adults, and it is just as wicked for children.

I am sure President Obama, Lady Ga Ga, Madonna, and Elton John are all celebrating that they just took a giant leap toward the destruction of a organization with a long history of honor and character.

The Progressive movement has taken hold of America they will not stop until there is no more marriage between a man and women. They want to be able to have sex with anyone at any time. These people have come out of the 60's the hippi movement where everyone should put everything in the pot and take what you need everybody is equal. These S.O.B did to much acid and everything is rosey and pretty as long as they get there way. They are like spoiled children. The parents that have kids in the BSA should take there kids out now and put them out of business ASAP. They should have told them they would do it before the vote. If you leave your child in the BSA you should be convicted of child abuse if something happens to your child because you new what could happen. Its a sad,sad,sad day for America if we keep given in the norm will be Sally and Jane,and Billy and Tom how could that be good for anyone expect the Progressive movement. Next thing will be everyone makes the same amount of money and everyone live in the same house no one will be better than the other even if you don't work you will all recieve the same as the person that does. They Nanny State has begun know with 49% of us paying for the other 51%. Thats enough of my rant I'am going fishing with my wife and drink a few cold beers and live the AMERICAN DREAM while it last.

I think they are going to have to change the scout oath:


On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to GOD and my country and to obey the scout law to help other people at all times to keep myself physically strong mentally awake AND MORALLY STRAIGHT

This really sucks. My father was an eagle scout, I am an eagle scout, and I have to young sons that I hoped to be an eagle someday. Guess that's not going to happen. I'm in the military and it just seems everything around me is going to hell. Not a happy camper.

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The homosexual are emboldened and they know they are protected by our media and our president.

Prior to ending DADT, the miniscule homosexual male population in the Army was still doing an astronomical number of assaults on other males. It was one of the dirty little secrets that they did not want let out of the bag

Priro to DADT ending, 50% of sexual assaults on Fort Benning, Ga were male on male. The number one way the chain of command was finding out soldiers were homosexual, was not from coming out of the closet, but from young soldiers letting the chain of command know that they had been assaulted.

This is nothing new. Males homosexuals have been raping little boys for centuries. The Baron Von Stuben wrote out book for drill and ceremony during the revolution. He was a Prussian officer, and they ran him out of Prussia for raping two young boys in the military school he ran. He was a homosexual.

The head of Hitler's Brown Shirts was a homosexual, and so were many of his top men. They violated young boys, and so did many of those that ran the Hitler Youth.

Homosexuality is an abomination, it is wicked, and those that practice it are reprobates that are void of morality.

It is a sad day for the scouts.

Damn shame...

My son won't be in the scouts next year.

Interesting article posted today.

After vote on gay youth, Boy Scouts face more turmoil...

The Associated Press
Published: May 25, 2013, 3:59 PM

Photo 1 of 1
The Boy Scouts of America will get no reprieve from controversy after a contentious vote to accept openly gay boys as Scouts.

Dismayed conservatives are already looking at alternative youth groups as they predict a mass exodus from the BSA. Gay-rights supporters vowed Friday to maintain pressure on the Scouts to end the still-in-place ban on gay adults serving as leaders.

"They're not on our good list yet," said Paul Guequierre of the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay-rights group. He said the HRC, in its annual rankings of corporate policies on workplace fairness, would deduct points from companies that donate to the Boy Scouts until the ban on gay adults is lifted.

In California, gay-rights leaders said they would continue urging passage of a bill pending in the Legislature that would make the BSA ineligible for nonprofit tax breaks because of the remaining ban.

The Boy Scouts' chief executive, Wayne Brock, pleaded for the Scouting community to reunite after the divisive debate that led to Thursday's vote by the BSA's National Council. The proposal to lift the ban on openly gay youth — while keeping the ban on gay adults — was supported by about 60 percent of the council's 1,400 voting members.

However, Brock's plea failed to sway some conservative religious leaders whose denominations sponsor many Scout units and who consider same-sex relationships immoral.

"Frankly, I can't imagine a Southern Baptist pastor who would continue to allow his church to sponsor a Boy Scout troop under these new rules," Richard Land, a senior Southern Baptist Conference official, told the SBC's news agency, Baptist Press.

Land advised Southern Baptist churches to withdraw their support of Scout troops and consider affiliating instead with the Royal Ambassadors, an existing SBC youth program for boys that combines religious ministry with Scouting-style activities.

Baptist churches sponsor Scout units serving more than 100,000 of the BSA's 2.6 million youth members.

The Assemblies of God, which oversees units serving more than 2,000 Scouts, said it could no longer support such units and suggested its own Royal Rangers youth group as a "positive alternative."

John Stemberger, a conservative activist and former Scout from Florida who led a group opposing the policy change, said he and his allies would convene a meeting next month in Louisville, Ky., to discuss creation of a "new character development organization for boys."

"We grieve today, not because we are faced with leaving Scouting, but because the Boy Scouts of America has left us," Stemberger said. "Its leadership has turned its back on 103 years of abiding by a mission to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices."

There is a template for forming a conservative alternative to a major national youth organization. American Heritage Girls was formed in 1995 as a Christian-oriented option to the Girl Scouts of the USA, and it now claims more than 20,000 members.

From the left, gay-rights supporters — including President Barack Obama — generally welcomed the move to accept openly gay Scouts, but urged the BSA to take the further step of welcoming gay adults as leaders.

White House spokesman Shin Inouye said Obama "continues to believe that leadership positions in the Scouts should be open to all, regardless of sexual orientation."

Rich Ferraro of GLAAD, formerly known as the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, said his group would continue a campaign to discourage corporate giving to the Boy Scouts until the ban on gay adults is lifted.

He also predicted that the presence of openly gay boys in Scout ranks would undermine the viability of the adult ban as those youth turn 18 and seek leadership posts.

"The BSA now will have to look gay teens in the eye, boys who've been involved in Scouting for years, and tell them they're not going to be able to grow into adult leaders," Ferraro said. "Those conversations will be difficult and shouldn't be had."

Eagle Scout Zach Wahls, a 21-year-old activist raised by lesbian mothers in Iowa, has been a leader of the campaign to end the BSA's no-gays policy. He said his group, Scouts for Equality, would continue to press for lifting the ban on gay adults, while also monitoring how the BSA implements its new policy for gay youth.

"We'll act as a watchdog," he said. "If any gay youth feel they're experiencing harassment or discrimination, we want to be there for them."

For some parents of Scouts, the entire membership debate has been emotionally draining, and the decision to accept openly gay youth left them disenchanted or confused.

Wes Comer, whose family attends an Apostolic Pentecostal church near Knoxville, Tenn., that considers homosexuality sinful, had been wrestling with whether to pull his eldest son out of the Scouts if the no-gays policy was abandoned.

"To be honest, I'm torn at this point," Comer said Friday in an email. "I'm not sure exactly what our decision will be."

"If I place this situation in the context of my religious beliefs, I'm forced to ask myself, 'Would I turn a homosexual child away from Sunday school? From a church function? Would I forbid my children to be friends with a gay child?' I can't imagine a situation where I would answer 'yes' to any of those questions. So how can I in this one?" he wrote.

Yet he said was "extremely disappointed" in the entire debate, and suggested that the BSA "has dealt itself a mortal blow."

Another Scouting father, Don Mack, of Waconia, Minn., said he and his 10-year-old son will be leaving Cub Scouts after the current year is done and his son gets his Arrow of Light Award.

Mack, a Scout himself as a boy and a self-described conservative Christian, has been a Cub Scout leader for about five years. Now, because of the vote to admit gay youth, he and his son both want out. And they'll be looking for an alternative program that offers similar character-building benefits as the Scouts.

"We home-school, and my wife and I teach our son you need to stand up for what's right, even if that means sacrifice or getting hurt in the process," Mack said. "It was not an easy choice for us to make because our family believed in the mission Scouting has to offer. I kind of feel like my best friend died."

I hope ppl jump ship like crazy. What a person does when theyre an adult is their business. Condoning faggotry with the youth is another thing. Back yrs ago when i lived in lafayette i partied evety night during the 2wks o was off. Seemed like ppl thought being queer was a cool thing. Cant remember what the place was called but there were several bars in the same area and some nights it seemed like they were everywhere. Crazy ass ppl.

My son was in the boy scouts and he enjoyed it, He came home everytime showing me different stuff he learned. And I was happy for him. but it came to the point where they had a camp out and he was really excited about it, so I let him go. Come around 10pm I couldn't sleep thinking to my self how well do I know these people? I love my kid and kinda felt if something was to happen to him I let him be put in that situation. I got my ass up and went to go get him. When I arrived his face lit up and he said dad can I come home? I said sure let the guy in the short shorts know! lol

Interesting article posted today.

After vote on gay youth, Boy Scouts face more turmoil...

The Associated Press
Published: May 25, 2013, 3:59 PM

Photo 1 of 1
The Boy Scouts of America will get no reprieve from controversy after a contentious vote to accept openly gay boys as Scouts.

Dismayed conservatives are already looking at alternative youth groups as they predict a mass exodus from the BSA. Gay-rights supporters vowed Friday to maintain pressure on the Scouts to end the still-in-place ban on gay adults serving as leaders.

"They're not on our good list yet," said Paul Guequierre of the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay-rights group. He said the HRC, in its annual rankings of corporate policies on workplace fairness, would deduct points from companies that donate to the Boy Scouts until the ban on gay adults is lifted.

In California, gay-rights leaders said they would continue urging passage of a bill pending in the Legislature that would make the BSA ineligible for nonprofit tax breaks because of the remaining ban.

The Boy Scouts' chief executive, Wayne Brock, pleaded for the Scouting community to reunite after the divisive debate that led to Thursday's vote by the BSA's National Council. The proposal to lift the ban on openly gay youth — while keeping the ban on gay adults — was supported by about 60 percent of the council's 1,400 voting members.

However, Brock's plea failed to sway some conservative religious leaders whose denominations sponsor many Scout units and who consider same-sex relationships immoral.

"Frankly, I can't imagine a Southern Baptist pastor who would continue to allow his church to sponsor a Boy Scout troop under these new rules," Richard Land, a senior Southern Baptist Conference official, told the SBC's news agency, Baptist Press.

Land advised Southern Baptist churches to withdraw their support of Scout troops and consider affiliating instead with the Royal Ambassadors, an existing SBC youth program for boys that combines religious ministry with Scouting-style activities.

Baptist churches sponsor Scout units serving more than 100,000 of the BSA's 2.6 million youth members.

The Assemblies of God, which oversees units serving more than 2,000 Scouts, said it could no longer support such units and suggested its own Royal Rangers youth group as a "positive alternative."

John Stemberger, a conservative activist and former Scout from Florida who led a group opposing the policy change, said he and his allies would convene a meeting next month in Louisville, Ky., to discuss creation of a "new character development organization for boys."

"We grieve today, not because we are faced with leaving Scouting, but because the Boy Scouts of America has left us," Stemberger said. "Its leadership has turned its back on 103 years of abiding by a mission to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices."

There is a template for forming a conservative alternative to a major national youth organization. American Heritage Girls was formed in 1995 as a Christian-oriented option to the Girl Scouts of the USA, and it now claims more than 20,000 members.

From the left, gay-rights supporters — including President Barack Obama — generally welcomed the move to accept openly gay Scouts, but urged the BSA to take the further step of welcoming gay adults as leaders.

White House spokesman Shin Inouye said Obama "continues to believe that leadership positions in the Scouts should be open to all, regardless of sexual orientation."

Rich Ferraro of GLAAD, formerly known as the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, said his group would continue a campaign to discourage corporate giving to the Boy Scouts until the ban on gay adults is lifted.

He also predicted that the presence of openly gay boys in Scout ranks would undermine the viability of the adult ban as those youth turn 18 and seek leadership posts.

"The BSA now will have to look gay teens in the eye, boys who've been involved in Scouting for years, and tell them they're not going to be able to grow into adult leaders," Ferraro said. "Those conversations will be difficult and shouldn't be had."

Eagle Scout Zach Wahls, a 21-year-old activist raised by lesbian mothers in Iowa, has been a leader of the campaign to end the BSA's no-gays policy. He said his group, Scouts for Equality, would continue to press for lifting the ban on gay adults, while also monitoring how the BSA implements its new policy for gay youth.

"We'll act as a watchdog," he said. "If any gay youth feel they're experiencing harassment or discrimination, we want to be there for them."

For some parents of Scouts, the entire membership debate has been emotionally draining, and the decision to accept openly gay youth left them disenchanted or confused.

Wes Comer, whose family attends an Apostolic Pentecostal church near Knoxville, Tenn., that considers homosexuality sinful, had been wrestling with whether to pull his eldest son out of the Scouts if the no-gays policy was abandoned.

"To be honest, I'm torn at this point," Comer said Friday in an email. "I'm not sure exactly what our decision will be."

"If I place this situation in the context of my religious beliefs, I'm forced to ask myself, 'Would I turn a homosexual child away from Sunday school? From a church function? Would I forbid my children to be friends with a gay child?' I can't imagine a situation where I would answer 'yes' to any of those questions. So how can I in this one?" he wrote.

Yet he said was "extremely disappointed" in the entire debate, and suggested that the BSA "has dealt itself a mortal blow."

Another Scouting father, Don Mack, of Waconia, Minn., said he and his 10-year-old son will be leaving Cub Scouts after the current year is done and his son gets his Arrow of Light Award.

Mack, a Scout himself as a boy and a self-described conservative Christian, has been a Cub Scout leader for about five years. Now, because of the vote to admit gay youth, he and his son both want out. And they'll be looking for an alternative program that offers similar character-building benefits as the Scouts.

"We home-school, and my wife and I teach our son you need to stand up for what's right, even if that means sacrifice or getting hurt in the process," Mack said. "It was not an easy choice for us to make because our family believed in the mission Scouting has to offer. I kind of feel like my best friend died."

Some very interesting comments about this @ the refuge. That may be my last post there Not really sure what the admin will let you get away with there sonce its changed hands.

They are called the BOY Scouts for a reason. It is not called the MEN Scouts. It is called Boy scouts, because it is a group for adolescent males.

SEX of any sort should have nothing to do with an organization for kids. the fact that we have a President who pressed for the boy scouts to have to take on homosexuals, shows you what a sick, demented, perverted, and wicked man he is.

Scouts should be about being good citizens, leadership, honor, country. it should not have the first thing to do with sex, homosexuality, adultery, bestiality....

When the President of the United States was vocal about his desire to sexualize the scouts, it shows what peril times we are in.

Yeah, not only that, he a no good MF.

I let my Son quit after about the third meeting. I went in and a bunch of Women had him stringing Beads. I asked them about real Boy stuff for Kids to do and they looked at me like I was on drugs. Boy has not even mentioned it since. I under stand the whole Troop failed and rightly so. I would not even think of letting him join now.