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Old School
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Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 3067 Location: Earth
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 Re: mud buddy 45 mag or mud buddy 4500 black death
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:06 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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 Re: mud buddy 45 mag or mud buddy 4500 black death
Only thing worth havin on the 4500 is the mikuni. The heads are junk
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:23 pm |
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Mayhem73
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:27 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: mud buddy 45 mag or mud buddy 4500 black death
 Yeah right! Have you done a leak down test on them?
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:33 pm |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:49 pm |
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Mayhem73
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:59 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:00 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:01 pm |
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zborden25
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:46 pm Posts: 183 Location: st bernard louisiana
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So is the black death a good motor? Im not looking to go 100 mph. I want something that has a little speed but can carry a load. Compared to a stock 35, whats it looking like?
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:45 pm |
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Mayhem73
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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I ran a4500BD on a 1754 Gatortrax and I was more than happy with it...
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:53 pm |
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zborden25
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Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:46 pm Posts: 183 Location: st bernard louisiana
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How was it with a load? Most of the time ill have 2-3 people decoys a pirogue and a dog
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:56 pm |
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MNGunner
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm Posts: 2623 Location: Minnesota
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_________________ 1754 Gator Trax Hybrid Hunt Deck with GTR35
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:04 pm |
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Mayhem73
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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My usual load was 2 guys, dog, 6 gallons fuel, gear, 8 dozen decoys. Boat had fast grass blind and would average 24-25 mph.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:22 pm |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:24 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:35 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:38 pm |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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I don't get it...if IM heads are so good, how come when I was running heads I did and a carb and gutted stock exhaust on a POS ribbed bottom boat I'd have hung about 4-5 mph on you with the same load... 
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:41 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:44 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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What boat you running that weighs 700 lbs
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:00 pm |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:05 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:06 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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I own alotta things that I don't know what they weigh
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:23 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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What makes a gator trax so heavy?
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:24 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Built like a tank.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:30 pm |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:38 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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Bottom and sides. Center storage bench, rear bench, full gun box, 4 foot front deck.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:42 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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Is it the storage benches that make it tank like?
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:51 pm |
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dadazzsaleen
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Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:24 pm Posts: 743 Location: Mandeville, LA
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From GT's website- 1754 HD weighs 740lbs.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:03 pm |
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dfou
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 3986 Location: Pville, La
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High density aluminum
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:28 pm |
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Mayhem73
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Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:00 am Posts: 428
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There ya go...
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:40 pm |
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VooDoo Daddy
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Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:55 pm Posts: 2005
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_________________ VooDoo--what you get when you leave your Voo outside all night long.
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dadazzsaleen
MMT Addict
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:24 pm Posts: 743 Location: Mandeville, LA
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To the op.
I have owned 45 mag & I was very pleased. Motor was strong. It pushed 3 men & full hunt load 28mph+ in deep water. And this was on a rogue (38" round chine bottom) meaning it drafted a lot. When I test drove, it was consistent 30mph with me, my wife & seller (empty boat). I was a lucky one as far as stock heads bc after 275+ hrs I only had about 10% leakage.
But if I was in market, I'd look at motor with reverse due to convenience.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:33 pm |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:50 pm |
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diddyduck
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 pm Posts: 2624 Location: ponchatoula, la
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if i could do it over again i wouldnt have IM heads but ive been pretty happy with them overall..had a rocker break off recently which also decided to take a chunk out the head to but was taken care of by boat dr..150 hrs thus far and that was the only issue..heads cam carb exhaust 34-35 me and gf and 10 gallons of gas 2 ppl and hunt load 31 bumping 32 my advise either jaime b or calen for mods..or if you can get in then cody also
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:44 pm |
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odass
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:30 pm Posts: 1928
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There is a pretty good price difference in the two motor also, but 45 mag will pull a heavy load way better, I bought a 50 mag so I could have somebody else do the heads, I'll probably go about it diff with a new motor. Personally I thinkthe bd4500 would do better, if it come with more stock gearing than the way mb gears them, I've changed the fgears in a couple for people and they would pull better rpms and load better. 38-50 or 40-50 seems to work better, but puts them at 4700 rally easy with light load. Just depends on what you want, if you going to haul 4 guys, better go with mag, if 2 maybe 3, bd will be fine. I with my prop chewed up bad right now can still get 4 guys, dog, and 100 dekes up to around 26, was almost 30, but prop is effed up bad. I do like the 50amp charging better tho. Good luck
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Why y'all think the Gator Trax is touted as weighing 740 lbs. when the same size Prodrive X Series is spec'd 140 lbs lighter?
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:02 pm |
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diddyduck
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Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 pm Posts: 2624 Location: ponchatoula, la
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