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breakuplandreneau
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Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:20 am Posts: 143 Location: O' piece a' loose azz
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 Sump Case bolt conversion
Going stage 3 so I decided to try this, maybe it's been done before not sure if it was mentioned yet but for those that wanna know I'm doing this on a vertical right now but I will be doing it on a horizontal also. The studs have been set with locktite and the nuts are all metal and dimpled so that there is no nylon to melt.
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BayouBuster
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Sump Case bolt conversion
It has been done bit haven't heard anything about it in awhile. Can't remember who bit they were using nordlock washers.
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mizzippi jb
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Hope it works out. Damn something needs to. I have about 60 hrs since cam swap and gasket change with no sign if leaks... knock on wood!
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Smoke
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Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 1095 Location: SW Michigan
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 Re: Sump Case bolt conversion
I just did the same to mine. Grade 8 studs in the case and crimp lock nuts with blue loctite. I installed a new cam and thought I'd try since i had to crack the case,So far so good. About 25 hours on it and no loose nuts. I used a marker of some sort my buddy gave me that is supposed to help ya tell wheather or not the nuts broke loose. Just checked em tonight and the paint marker is still intact. It seems to be working.......... So far.
Fyi: I did have to run a threading die over the stud to cut 4 or 5 extra threads to get it to work out better. This was one the nut side of the stud. Not sure if you'll have to but thought I'd mention it either way.
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breakuplandreneau
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Thanks for the input, after assembly I will be marking the stud and nuts with a paint marker also to ensure that there is no movement, fingers crossed I hope this works
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1851 excel with a 35 mudbuddy.......sold
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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mizzippi jb
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So is that the secret you been talking about? Cat out of the bag?
_________________ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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cb5331
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cb5331
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Will
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I still don't know why y'all don't just weld them shut. It would strengthen the block as well. 
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cb5331
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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cb5331
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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cb5331
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cb5331
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Gameover
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Get someone to make a b8 bolt with a machine shoulder at top and it will be done deal. I could get them made for about $2-3 a piece for people we use at work. I talked with Calen months ago about trying this and he was suppose to measure a crankcase for me bc mine hasn't been off in a long time
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Gameover
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If someone has a crankcase laying around measure holes with a caliber and give me a max and min and I'll calculate the temp growth and stretch and could get some made if people are interested
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Gameover
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U will accomplish exact same thing machining a shouldered bolt versus middle shouldered studs....
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Gameover
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It needs to be measured and then u need to calculate heat growth or it will break it EVERYTiME if it's to tight tolerance
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Gameover
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Also care to explain how a larger shoulder inside the crank case holes cracks a block....???
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Gameover
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No need to tie wire if bolts won't back out or come loose
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pokey79
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I still need to do some very critical measuring but I found a problem Sunday when I was doing a service on my motor and started play with my bare block! but I will say more after I no for sure about some of the bolt lengths !
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Swampnuts
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