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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Motor frame loose
I noticed today that the frame is rocking back and forth where the main bolt goes through at. The bolt that the motor moves up and down on. Is there bushing that might be worn out?
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nocemdead
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Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:58 pm Posts: 770 Location: atkins ar
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Gtr? I have the same slack....how many hrs?
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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 Re: Motor frame loose
No u have to replace the bolt and nuts no bushings in there
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Kind of shitty should have some kind of bushing there
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mudslut
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mudslut
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Mine has the same play, doesn't sound as bad as yours though. Reckon what wore out first...the aluminum or the steel nut and bolt?
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baron von
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Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: Motor frame loose
which bolt is this?
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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mudslut
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Motor frame loose
What spot are talking about?
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The mid section (which is the vertical piece) that the motor turns left and right on. - there are two bushings (top and bottom)
The steering tube bolt is the front bolt that connects the transom mounts and allows the midsection and entire motor to kick up and down (two nuts on an aluminum threaded rod, no bushings) called the steering tube because if you have a console motor that is hollow for the steering ram rod to go through for hydraulic steering.
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Where the mid section bolts to belt housing (two bushings on each side that require cutting to fit inside)
Either way if one part is loose, the others prob won't be far behind. If you are replacing one might as well replace all.
Mid section bolt has to be pushed out upward enough to get top bushing out then pushed out from the bottom to get the bottom bushing out.
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Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:42 am |
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
So it would be my steering tube bolt.
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Thanks for the help Willet.
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willett
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 1764 Location: Tyler, TX
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 Re: Motor frame loose
No problem.
How many hours on your motor?
You're going to have to pull the motor off the boat anyway to pull that apart.
It's Not but a few more bolts to replace the bushings.
Doesn't mean you HAVE to just saying might as well with it off
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Motor has just over 200 hrs. How hard is it to change all of it. Cuz I don't want to be down for teal season if I mess something up.
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willett
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Really pretty easy, not much to go wrong with taking those parts off
Removing the nuts and bolts and lining back up to bolt back together is hardest part.
Extra set of hands is very helpful
Rubber mallet and/or block of wood is a must to tap out the steering bolt and midsection bolt.
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Ok. Thanks for the advice.
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Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:12 am |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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 Re: Motor frame loose
That bolt is aluminum with two big nuts that's why it wears out the bolt in the mid section is still with upper and lower plastic bushings
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BayouBuster
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Motor frame loose
You can turn the bolt over 180 degrees or run it a half inch to one side and it will take the slack out. Just saying if you didn't have the means to pull it all down right now.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Like Pete was saying it can be loose in 5 different places.
This is the last one I did and should fix the problem with the vertical pivot point.
It definitely could use a couple bushings there for sure.
This is the frames top vertical pivot pin when I pulled it
Got a friend to weld it up
This is what ate it up and should have bushings.
So I install a stainless bushing/liner all the way through.
Also because the pivot pin was worn it put more load on the bottom pin causing it to wear. So it was replaced.
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Yea I'm sure my bar looks like that. I just moved it over a 1/2". Also got to moving the rest of the motor around and I'm deff need the other two bushing also.
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bayouboy
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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Oh yea it going to be fun. What sucks is I'm leaving for work tomorrow and won't be back till the day before teal season.
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bayouboy
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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Oh I'll make it!!! Even it I have to get the wife to paddle the boat.
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bayouboy
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 Re: Motor frame loose
Good luck to you sir!
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nocemdead
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Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:58 pm Posts: 770 Location: atkins ar
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 Re: Motor frame loose
How much slack is considered acceptable? I am coming down to Buras in two weeks. 
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jc
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Damn fine work as usual Bayouboy
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bayouboy
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Migrator
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Migrator
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 Motor frame loose
BB, trailering a boat through LA , especially down 23 will put an ass whippin on that bolt for sure. I replaced mine last year. Nice job on the bushing.
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mudslut
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baron von
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 Re: Motor frame loose
if you tighten the nuts will it make motor a little stiffer to turn? I'm not talking going gorilla on them just tighten up a little to add a little resistance to tiller.
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mudslut
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 2061 Location: Natchitoches,La
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I haven't messed with the right to left yet so I'm not sure.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:07 am |
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nocemdead
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Naw bub chasing Reds...ducks taste like a Turd compared to Redfish
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lunacris
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bite your damn tongue...
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bayouboy
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Swamp Wader
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These points cant be greased? Didnt see any certs in the pics.
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mudslut
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