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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
If one was to put a tall transom motor on a short transom boat, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a jack plate verses just building up the transom the old fashioned way with welded aluminum.
Not sure how much difference it makes, but this hypothetical situation is in reference to a 36 ProDrive, which, as you know, is heavily back weighted.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:44 pm |
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
I'd build up transome and be done with it. A jack plate will put that heavy ass motor 6" further back which will make it want to squat. You'll notice it when taking off in shallow hard bottom. Besides what you will spend on a Jack plate you could put toward building up the transom.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:47 pm |
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
Sounds like a bad idea to me..
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:48 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
It's definitely cheaper to build up a transom, which is obviously a factor. I wasn't sure how much the offset was. 6" is more than I'd imagined. My biggest worry would be strength. How susceptible would the jack plate be to damage under mud motor running conditions? (Stumps, logs, kicking up, dropping hard, etc.)
The only real advantage I see in my head is that by being able to drop a tall transom motor to short transom height would give you an extra 4-6" of downward reach with improved drive angle. In theory, a ProDrive would benefit immensely from this with respect to reverse.
Is that logical thinking?
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:55 pm |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
Y'all have said everything I would have.
Another thing is will your transom hold up with putting all that weight 6" further back on the transom?
I would build it up if it were my rig.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:58 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:07 pm |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:10 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
It may be possible to get a 4" setback but idk for sure. Everyone I ever seen seemed like it was 6".
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:11 pm |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
you would need three hands to operate trim, hydraulic jack plate, and throttle at the same time. DDM runs them on his big boat and they have been able to withstand the abuse
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:12 pm |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
I agree if you built a boat strong enough to hold one it would be a great option for the pd's in the soft stuff.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:13 pm |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
In theory it sounds great. However, If you look where the gear knuckle of the PD is, it is above the bottom of the boat at all times. If you lower the whole motor you increase the area causing drag. Will it work in some cases, yes. To make a PD run mud like a GTR, no. There is more factors that are involved in traversing mud flats than how deep you can get.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:36 pm |
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da go get'er
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 3406 Location: Prairieville
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 Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
I'm pretty sure I've seen 4" set back jacks. Search micro jack plates if I remember right (it's been a while)
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:37 pm |
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JLACOUR
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
Check your clearances with the trim ram.
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:43 pm |
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JLACOUR
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
How long is your hunt deck?
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:50 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
Forget it. It isn't feasible on my rig. I'm glad I asked the question, but it doesn't seem like it's an option. My HD is 22". I certainly can't afford to lose another 6"!
Just looked, and the 4" setbacks are for "small outboards"...
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:58 pm |
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brasso
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Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
A jackpot sets your motor back off the transom and makes the boat sit lower in the water. Build the transom
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Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:29 am |
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mizzippi jb
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Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm Posts: 5077 Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
Hunt decks and pro drives aren't a real good fit. I had a hd/pd rig once. Wasn't optimal to say the least. But mine was a short transom. I'm sure a tall makes a difference.
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Paulox86
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Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:02 pm Posts: 371
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
I tried a jack plate and ran it once then went straight to the weld shop. Wish I had that Saturday back that I wasted putting that thing on.
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Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:57 am |
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steinb3rg
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Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 345
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 Re: Jack Plate vs. Built-up Transom
I like my hunt deck and Prodrive but then again mines a CC. 
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:58 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:21 pm |
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