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Ernieg38
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Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 10
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 New to mud motors got a ?
Boat starts takes off good at first but then it feels like something is slipping maybe clutch ?
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:16 pm |
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SpecialK
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Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:04 pm Posts: 249
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Motor and boat? We need to know what you are running to n ow what the mechanical causes could be.... BUT Are you trimming up and down to find the sweet spot? Depending on how high your boat planes, you may need to trim down to find the point that the prop starts slipping...
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:46 pm |
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DmaxHunter
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Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:21 pm Posts: 2207 Location: North Alabama
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Yes, we need allot more info!
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:13 pm |
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Ernieg38
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Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 10
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
35 mud buddy 1648 duracraft got a great hole shot but after that motor seems to Rev but not much power run 21 me boat and gas no mods stock engine 05 model
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:27 pm |
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cheniermudder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:30 am Posts: 434 Location: SW Louisiana - Sabine River
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Are you taking off with the motor trimmed all the way down, mid way, or up? Depending on the attitude of the prop , once the bow breaks over plain and levels out, if you're trimmed too high, you may be getting some prop slip. Have you tried changing the trim while running to see if it resolves the problem? Running at a good speed, you should feel the prop grab when it finds it's sweet spot. From what you've given us, sounds like prop slippage. Cant rule out the clutch till we get more info tho.
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:59 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Yes and for about 20 feet it feels like it wants to run out from under you then that power is gone no matter where I trim it to didn't know if it was supposed to be that way
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:06 am |
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cheniermudder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:30 am Posts: 434 Location: SW Louisiana - Sabine River
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Is the motor reving into higher rpm range when this occurs or is it staying constant? If its gaining revs but not gaining power, you could very likely be getting some clutch slippage. If it's staying constant with but has no power it could be your prop. How many rpms are you turning? What prop? What kind of shape is it in? Is it a 2 or 3 blade? Give us some measurements on it. If its a 2 blade, overall length from point to point and the width of the blades at their widest point. Is its a 3 blade, measure from ghe center of the hub out to the tip of one blade, then double that. Blade width measures the same. It could be you're trying to turn too big of a prop, which explains a good hole shot but no top end.
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:32 am |
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cheniermudder
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Another thought....if your clutch was slipping, I would think you would notice it more on your hole shot. That's when the clutch should be under the most torque. Sounds like its biting good at that point.
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:39 am |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
High revs, and low speed I would venture to say the prop is worn. Measure Tip to Tip.
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:14 am |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Prop is pretty new will measure waiting on rpm gauge but sounds like it is prop. It's the big prop 2 blade
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:07 am |
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Bigbuckfever
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Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 2114 Location: Slinger, WI
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Pictures of hull? If you have pods on your boat that could be the problem. Or if it's hooked
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:51 am |
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cheniermudder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:30 am Posts: 434 Location: SW Louisiana - Sabine River
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
If you're running a Big Blade that would be the first I've heard of a Mudbuddy 35 not being able to turn it. Still too many unknowns to be much help. Look at your prop and see if you can determine it's size and pitch. Should be etched into the hub and be something like 10p or 9p between the blades on one side. If it's a newer prop the blade points will still have some crisper edges. If its worn they'll be more rounded.
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:19 pm |
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SpecialK
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Without more info, my bet is on the trim being too high or a short transom motor on a tall transom boat...
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:28 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:19 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Back of boat, and on prop it says 10p
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:22 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Side veiw and sorry it is taking so long I was at work I appreciate all of the help
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Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:23 pm |
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DmaxHunter
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
prop is worn a little, not horrible. That is a short transom motor if i can see the sideways picture correctly. my question is what are those two things on the back of the transom, look like half pipe?
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:24 am |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
It is tubing was in there when u got it . Gonna pull them out and try it
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:23 am |
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cheniermudder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:30 am Posts: 434 Location: SW Louisiana - Sabine River
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Is that pin with the hitch pin in it for your trim lock? If so, can it be moved further down toward the transom? If that is indeed your trim locking pin, it appears to be too high. Doesn't allow the lower unit to drop down enough, thus keeping the prop too high and not allowing it to get any bite. It is deep enough when starting out to get thrust, but as the boat plains out, the motor rises as well. Try moving it to a lower position if possible.
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:34 am |
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DmaxHunter
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:17 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
It is just travel pin motor will trim way down, how do you tell if the motor is for short transom boats
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:22 pm |
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cheniermudder
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
I see....sorry. My pin like that is for servicing only. Does the unit trim all the way down to the transom?
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:53 pm |
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Ernieg38
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
Yes it does
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:45 pm |
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cheniermudder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:30 am Posts: 434 Location: SW Louisiana - Sabine River
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
I would suggest trying a different prop if you can get your hands on a loaner. That will tell you quickly if its in the prop or elsewhere.
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:44 pm |
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DmaxHunter
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Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:21 pm Posts: 2207 Location: North Alabama
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 Re: New to mud motors got a ?
It should measure 16 inches, or on the mb hd the top clutch cover. The short has six bolts the tall has eight
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:43 pm |
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