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Muddy ducks7
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:12 pm Posts: 396 Location: Bama
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Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearing sy
Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearing system kit
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Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:13 pm |
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bigchevrolet
MMT Member
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:43 pm Posts: 44
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
I built a surface drive and used the lower bearing assembly. Very nice piece....I would recommend their products to anyone. They seem to have there shit together and do not have a problem answering questions either.
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:46 pm |
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Muddy ducks7
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:12 pm Posts: 396 Location: Bama
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
Did you use dom tubing?
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:18 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
I am in the process of building one right now with the lower bearing assembly
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:27 pm |
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Muddy ducks7
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:12 pm Posts: 396 Location: Bama
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
I'm haveing a hard time finding 1/38 o.d x 0.109wt x 1.157 i.d dom tubing what kind tubing y'all useing?
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:46 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
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Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
Have you considered boring a bearing housing on a lathe and threading it on to your DOM drive shaft housing?
Mark F. Cheney
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:37 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
I couldn't find the tubing either but I found some on onlinemetals.com that was 1 3/8" with 1.18 ID .095 wall that was close enough for me. I put a flange bearing on top and bronze bushing in the center and made sure I had the shaft in the tube and it all lined up while I tacked the bearing on the housing.
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:55 pm |
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Muddy ducks7
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:12 pm Posts: 396 Location: Bama
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:56 pm |
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Muddy ducks7
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Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:12 pm Posts: 396 Location: Bama
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:00 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
It had enough room that you could feel it moving a little bit not much. I just put the shaft thru the top bearing and the bushing before I tacked the lower assembly on so everything would be lined up
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Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:06 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
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Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
What kind of a seal system is used with the lower bearing assy from Back water? or do they just use sealed bearings?
Mark F. Cheney
_________________ on the Great Salt Lake marsh
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:26 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
It has 3 sealed bearings in the bearing housing. The end cap has a rubber seal in it and also has an o ring on the threads
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:27 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
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Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
So Brock2013, is the bearing's inner race just a slip fit on the drive shaft. I appreciate the seal photos, thank you.
Mark F. Cheney
_________________ on the Great Salt Lake marsh
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:21 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
Yes it's just a slip fit. The bearings slide on the shaft and into the collar and are held in place by the snap ring you can see in the pics. The assembly is actually 3 pieces. The weldment is welded to the shaft housing, then you have the collar that the bearings slide in and the end cap with the seal.
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Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:11 pm |
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Livetohunt
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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:44 pm Posts: 6 Location: Ontario,CA
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
Brock2013, what did you use for a housing for your bearings? I tried to find a coupling, but it had too much play in it? Stumped!
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:35 pm |
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jakehawk9
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Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
External bearing on the frame, pillow block or flange. Easy replacement. Good results. Someone on MMT told me about that and it's simple but I hadn't thought about it before
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:03 pm |
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brock2013
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm Posts: 35 Location: Brock TX
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
http://www.backwaterinc.com/store/p16/L ... m_kit.htmlThe lower bearing is the backwater inc bearing assembly and the top is a flange bearing
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:12 pm |
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jakehawk9
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Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
He'll yeah looks slick
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:06 am |
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Snosleder080
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Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:09 pm Posts: 1
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
waking up an old thread here, what keeps the shaft from walking up or down in this setup? from what I understand backwater's lower bearing assembly is non locking and wouldn't the same go for the flange bearing? I would think the upper flange bearing would leak grease also with no seal. looking to build something similar just want to make sure it's reliable first. thanks in advance
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Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:09 pm |
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fatcrackr
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Joined: Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:20 pm Posts: 4 Location: Florida
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Re: Any body built a long tail and used backwater inc bearin
Does anyone have part numbers or specific information on the lower bearings that Backwater uses? I have a 10 hp Swomp that needs replacements.
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Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:32 pm |
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