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Down River
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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:29 am Posts: 7
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 New Rig
Hello all new guy here about to take the plunge into the mud motor world. My question is right now I have my eye set on a 1542 tracker topper with a 23 horse backwater long tail. Anybody have anything similar? What can I expect out of this boat? In my eye it's perfect boat for the marshes I hunt at home. Not to big not to small. Light enough to pull over the rollovers. Should work great. Just curious what everyone else thinks. Thanks.
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| Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:43 am |
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alexm
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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:07 am Posts: 276 Location: Miramar Fl
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 Re: New Rig
Not very familiar with the back water brand. I have a godevil surface 23 hp on a tracker grizzly 1648. I'd recommend getting a godevil or mud buddy long tail just hardy more reliable they been doing it for years. My 2 cents. The tracker isn't really designed for this application. I was going to purchase that same exact boat. Glad I didn't but also not happy with the tracker. A riveted boat really won't stand up to a ton of abuse. I have run over pretty much everything thinkable. Haven't gone on land though. Cuz I have a mod v. A true flat bottom width adequate hull gauge is required. My 2 cents. But for an affordable quickly put together rig it will definitely get the job done so go with what you feel comfortable with. Good luck!
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| Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:34 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: New Rig
The size you're looking at is fine. Ran a 24 on a 1546 xpress for many years (17 OR something with the longtail, it now has a 27 mini surface drive on it). I would recommend that route if budget is going to be the deciding factor. Whatever size you want, but they're light boats, welded, and will last longer than the topper would. Alweld or weldbilt would likely be very similar price, weight, function, and durability. They aren't perfect, but they do the job well, won't break the bank, and should last a long time. If they don't last, just know the topper would've given out even sooner.
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| Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:53 pm |
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Trousertrout
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Re: New Rig
I have the exact setup. What questions you got
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:55 pm |
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Down River
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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:29 am Posts: 7
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 Re: New Rig
How is it stability wise? Anything you would change? Hunt 3 guys comfortsbaly?
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:59 pm |
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Trousertrout
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Re: New Rig
Three guys in deep water is not really fun. If you can pull onto some kind of solid ground that would work. If you will be floating than all three guys have to be centered. I removed the center console and that freed up some room. Mounted a winch on the front. That is a must have where I am at. The boat is actually holding up well. Only replaced about a dozen rivots so far after 3 years. Gator glided the bottom which helps. Don't get me wrong the thing looks like a crumpled pop can underneath but it floats. I drag my rig over 500 feet of the nastiest shove ice you can imagine on lake erie so it is bound to get beat up. I love the light weight of the boat. 3 guys can pick the boat up with motor and gear if needed. Get a winch and you won't have to worry about that. You have to beef up the sides if you take that center console out.
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:20 pm |
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alexm
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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:07 am Posts: 276 Location: Miramar Fl
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 Re: New Rig
I like the idea of an alweld or weld built like RUSS suggested.
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:29 pm |
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Down River
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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:29 am Posts: 7
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 Re: New Rig
What about a g3
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:50 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: New Rig
Can't speak from experience on the quality, though I expect it's fine. The 1648 lw and wl look ok, and while the 1544lw looks ok, it's awful thin. If you expect to get some life out of it, and using the motor you're planning, I'd suggest the 1648, either model.
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:59 pm |
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jakehawk9
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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 Re: New Rig
I'm in the process of rigging out my weldbilt right now. As soon as I get the motor mounted I'll give er a run and let you know how ot does if you'd like. It's a 1648v. Mod v as many call it here
It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:27 pm |
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TrapperCarl
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Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:56 am Posts: 31
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 Re: New Rig
I have a 1644 alweld with a 23backwater full frame. could not be more satisfied with this rig. never checked speed however plenty fast enough. prob around 22 or23 with me at 260 and two full size labs. handles so easy gets on plane real easy, runs super shallow. jake and arlon are great to deal with. anything I can help with let me know. good luck
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:55 pm |
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Trousertrout
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Re: New Rig
I am probably around 14 to 15 with 3 guys and gear
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:36 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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 Re: New Rig
I have a modded 23 backwater , 26 solo , 25 with my daughter , 23 with two man hunt load with dog. Now this is on a long skinny made for a longtail boat. Great little motors ,and with upgrades and regular maintance you can really wake these 23's up.
H Finn
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:30 pm |
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Down River
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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:29 am Posts: 7
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 Re: New Rig
The tracker topper is rated for a 25 horse motor
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| Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:04 pm |
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Trousertrout
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Re: New Rig
Don't mind that rating plate. If it makes you feel better you can put a 9.9 sticker on a 35lt
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| Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:34 am |
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