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BOATADDICT
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Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:30 am Posts: 19
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BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Well let me first say that I had a rude awakening during my last hunting trip. I quickly realized the limitations of an outboard on a v bottom hull and had to drag the boat with motor trimmed up for about 500 yards in and out of the spot I wanted to hunt, very frustrating! I really did want to get a mud motor and boat before this hunting season but I just couldn't make it work out, so it looks like I'll be shooting for next season. I already know that I don't want to spend 15k on a surface drive boat/motor combo, so with that said I'm really interested in a Swomp Lite 23. I have heard great things about them and I like the simplicity of a longtail motor. So the dilemma at hand is what boat to run one of these on. Yes, I know everyone runs them on a lightweight beater riveted jon boat. I have thought about it but the more I contemplate, the more I would like to have a true slick bottom welded boat to run the Swomp 23 on. I'm thinking around the 15' maybe 16' range. I already know this setup won't be a speed demon but willing to mod the engine a little if I have to. I really only hunt 2 people and just need to idle through shallow water so I don't have to get out and push. I've called a few of the fab shops and get quotes from 5k-6k for a bare hull. I thought this was a little steep honestly. Looking for some good recommendations on sub 5k hulls, 0.100" thickness minimum, 0.125" preferred. I do have plenty of time so I may be in the market for a used hull if the right one presents itself. Thanks guys.
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:26 pm |
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
See The 15 x 36 Go Devil Duck Skiff Thread.
H Finn
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:53 pm |
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BOATADDICT
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Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:30 am Posts: 19
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Thanks Huck. I've read that thread a lot. I've probably read every thread on here about Swomp 23's or Swomp motors in general. Those duck skiff's are sweet little boats. I wish they were a little wider though. I'm looking for something in the 44" width range. I know godevil makes a 16'44". Seems like a viable options. Wish I could find a used one with no motor hanging on it. Also looked at the alweld mud hulls. I know they are 0.100" and have seen the post with the hole punched in the bottom. I probably wouldn't get that rowdy with it though. They seem kinda pricey and probably hard to come by. Any other ideas are much appreciated. Thanks again.
_________________ 22'x72" Boatright w/ 200 Yamaha SHO 14' Alumacraft w/ modded 6.5 Backwater
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:25 pm |
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4Cody4
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
I’d get at least an 1844, maybe a 1944. That motor will run near the same on that hull as a 15 footer. Plus it’ll carry a load better and hold a surface drive better.
Evolution of a mudmotor owner is as follows:
I want a mudmotor but I’m short on cash. I’ll buy a long tail.
Works for a couple years but sucks to fish out of.
I Am getting a surface drive. I go faster and I have neutral, problem solved.
Works for a couple years but it’s loud and there is a lot of maintenance.
Now I’m an outboard guy and I keep a shit boat around with a shit long tail on it to hunt 3 times a year when I need it.
I am a prime example.
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_________________ "Two people in this world wear helmets, and that's dare devils and pussies." - Willie Braun
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:17 pm |
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BOATADDICT
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:30 am Posts: 19
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Haha, I totally understand the boat process. I have had many and they all have their flaws. Shortage of cash is not the problem. I already own a 60k fishing machine which I use the heck out of. Like you said though I don't get to hunt as much as I would like so I can't justify spending a lot on a bad ass surface drive boat. Not that I couldn't. I just want a low maintenance 2 person hunting boat that is easy to hide. I will definitely keep in mind the 1844 suggestion though. I hear the longer boats run better as you mentioned. Thanks for the advice and helping me see the bigger picture.
_________________ 22'x72" Boatright w/ 200 Yamaha SHO 14' Alumacraft w/ modded 6.5 Backwater
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:55 pm |
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4Cody4
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Sounds like you got it sorted out. I for sure wouldn’t go any shorter than 16’ though.
Good luck
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_________________ "Two people in this world wear helmets, and that's dare devils and pussies." - Willie Braun
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:26 pm |
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hvfc6040
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:41 am Posts: 100
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Sounds like you need to invest in pirogue and rack for your big boat.
I ran a 24' blue wave in biloxi marsh last year to mothership pirogues, and killed PLENTY of ducks. There is also some really cool pirogues out there with small lightweight long tails (3-6 hp) on them that are still light enough to single handed pull it in and out of your mothership.
Go spend the day at hopedale marina and you will see some really cool "inventions" that people have come up with to get around the hp limits in biloxi marsh.
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:36 am |
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Wchauvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:10 pm Posts: 1872
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
If you go with a little pirogue with a little motor, checkout pintail pirogues. They are badass and you can mount a little Motor on it
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:01 pm |
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MNGunner
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm Posts: 2623 Location: Minnesota
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
_________________ 1754 Gator Trax Hybrid Hunt Deck with GTR35
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:55 pm |
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WI715
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:24 am Posts: 53
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Re: BOAT IDEAS PLEASE???
Extreme metal fab build my 16x48 w/ huntdeck earlier this year. Had a 22hp service drive, now I have a 40hp BW longtail. I like the set up. The hull is .125 and they double the thickness on the transom.
If it's just me in the boat I hit 27 mph.
EMF was the most economical builder I found to build a good boat.
Uncle J has a black Friday sale going on. Uncle J will be building my hybrid next year. Itll be 19.5x48 with a huntdeck and with highsides/cockpit like a sneakboat.
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_________________ Extreme Metal Fab 16x48 w/huntdeck 40EFI Backwater LT
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