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Full Throttle
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:09 pm Posts: 1268 Location: North Texas
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 PD Winch Trim
Well, I've burnt up my 3rd super winch 2000 in about 125 hours..... I don't have a problem using the winch trim, but it just isn't reliable.
Should I try another brand winch? If so, which one?
Or should I pony up and get the hydrolic replacement?
Thanks.
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:11 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
You could always go to a better winch. You know the warn's are a quality product but the prices are pretty steep, and may put you in the ballpark of a hydro set up.
Some of the guys on here have been having good luck with the gorilla winch products on ebay. They recently changed the name of the company but still the same product. Prices are more similar to the superwinch. I have 2 of the superwinches and haven't had any problems yet. One on the front of the boat, and one for the trim.
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:26 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
You need to find one with a strong brake that can hold the weight of the motor. Thats what failed on all of mine. 3 or 4 of em.
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:51 pm |
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mudman350
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:30 pm Posts: 217 Location: Berwick La.
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
the power trim is great. id spend the 500 and get it. i love it
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Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:29 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
run one of each righ tnow and i kinda like the winch trim better than the hydro.....after busting 2 pumps it seams the winch would be easer to fix when it does break.
Before you change search how many peopel have had problems out of the hydro...line busting, no power, cracket pumps, pusted parts.....
If you loose a winch you can still get back to the ramp by just taking up the slack....bust a hydro and you need some redneckn to get back. I keep 18" of cable with a loop on both ends in my boat just incase i bust a line or crack another bar.
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:15 pm |
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Full Throttle
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:09 pm Posts: 1268 Location: North Texas
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
Kind of what I was thinking, James..... I ended up just getting another superwinch2000. As it turns out, I had bought a $6.99 warranty for it at Northern Tool and they gave me a brand new one for free.
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:20 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
Good deal.....
Get your boat loaded up and lets ride man...if you bowfish be probably be going this weekend give me a ring.
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:38 pm |
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Shadow
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 798 Location: Shreveport, LA
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:13 pm |
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bombdude
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:59 pm Posts: 229 Location: Walker, La
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
Glad it worked out for you. For the record, I'm still using my original winch trim, & it hasn't let me down yet.
Now watch it fail this weekend now that I've bragged on it.
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:50 pm |
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Full Throttle
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:09 pm Posts: 1268 Location: North Texas
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:07 pm |
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Shadow
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 798 Location: Shreveport, LA
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
I'd like to see a picture of the winch trim up close. Never seen one.
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:34 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:56 pm |
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Full Throttle
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:09 pm Posts: 1268 Location: North Texas
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
I put that same blue rope on mine as well. Got it off ebay. Had it break once, so I'm gonna stick with the new cable for a little while and see how it does.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:20 am |
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Shadow
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 798 Location: Shreveport, LA
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
Could you not make an electric actuator work for a trim? Mounting plate would be the hardest thing...one from hydralic trim may work... never seen one of those up close either.
To use the winch trim do you just mainly need a special bracket? Sorry for the questions....dont really have time to search right now and I've never seen them in person. Just know what I got.
Here is an idea I had a while back.... its off the wall but
The manual trim uses a screw( i call it) for its trim. What if you used something like this..... Im not sure how fast it is but...
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:07 am |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
not able to see the image but if you r talking about a servo motor they would work just have to find one that will hold up.
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:23 am |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:38 am |
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Shadow
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 798 Location: Shreveport, LA
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Brinkley - Its just a 12V car jack. It has the long screw like on the manual trim.
CB - I'll just keep turnin the handle for now. I just dont know how I like the looks of the hydraulic trim..
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:53 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:03 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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On that jack, the motor must spin a gear that turns the screw. If you removed the wheel off the bolt on the pd, and took the motor off the jack, maybe you could get the gear to spin the bolt. I see what you're trying to do. Looks like a lot of headache to me... How much are those little jacks? Or can you buy the motor separately?
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:05 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
Quick question that is sort of relevant. Does anyone know if you were to call PD and order a hydro trim to replace your manual, would that new trim unit come with a 1 year warrenty?
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:10 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Owen, I think it would. I know they gave us a warranty on the new lower unit...
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:19 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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my first busted hydro pump was not quite 2 yrs old and they sent me a replacement which was used. They had to do this becasue they no longer used the style pump. when that one busted i had to purchas the new pump for 275??? i think. I'm sure if it goes out they will send a new one but the way my luck is i would have to pony up and purchas one.
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:44 pm |
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Shadow
MMT F.E.
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:11 pm Posts: 798 Location: Shreveport, LA
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My motor doesn't have docking assistance, it has REVERSE!
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:30 pm |
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BAG Hunter
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:25 pm Posts: 257
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:31 pm |
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Brinkleydog
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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up n DeKalb at my lease. be careful on the river bro its choked full of crap......i only go to he river when the wife and kids stay at home and thats not often.
_________________ 20 x 54 with 9/16 bottom powered by Twin BLACK CHICKS with FPR
The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. Go here and click on the "donate a mammogram". This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate mammogram in exchange for advertising.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:39 am |
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TURBODRIVE
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:27 am Posts: 1612
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 Re: PD Winch Trim
ive had my winch trim since 06, its whatever brand that PD put on their, but its held up great
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:57 am |
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